When it is time to call it quits?

[iCONtheMicKing]

this entitled, condescending, pseudo-artistic stance against getting a job also manages to be trite, cliched, puerile, and monumentally stupid all at once. Especially when it comes from artists that nobody gives a shit about to begin with.

Where did any of the artists who replied in this thread take on this stance?

I haven't seen any of the real condescending "the working man's a sucker" philosophy that permeates so much of rap.

that was me.

I'll be clich

[Haitian Jack]

lol @ niggas thinkin they job is secure forever even tho the world economy is comin down around our ears and china alredy owns your kids future

[Employee]

lol @ niggas thinkin they job is secure forever even tho the world economy is comin down around our ears and china alredy owns your kids future

[Rob Sonic]

I made 1,587 dollars on music last month. my rent is a g I spent the rest on booze and pot. something tells me i could be doing better at rap and life in general

you're lucky you live in NY otherwise you'd be paying a car note too.

That's the whole deal, the only real shitty thing about doing it full time is you make sacrifices out the ass bone, To me it's a blue collar job at this level at best. So unless your goal is to play on player you do it as long as you're good with that, sure some one might get lucky that's always there but never should be expected.

[drizzle]

"the working man's a sucker"

The funny thing is they are victims of the same philosophy, for the most part.

Accepting your fate as a cubicle monkey is accepting an interior view of what your coffin will look like.

unless i totally misunderstood what you're trying to say

[Employee]

"the working man's a sucker"

The funny thing is they are victims of the same philosophy, for the most part.

Accepting your fate as a cubicle monkey is accepting an interior view of what your coffin will look like.

unless i totally misunderstood what you're trying to say

Half the time I don't even know.

- 90% of the time

[Smitty]

lol @ niggas thinkin they job is secure forever even tho the world economy is comin down around our ears and china alredy owns your kids future

[SYM]

thread needs more acthepd

[blackaspirin]

I made 1,587 dollars on music last month. my rent is a g I spent the rest on booze and pot. something tells me i could be doing better at rap and life in general

what up with that skate 3 money? just picked it up and was checkin the playlist... nice

[PopeyeJones]

lol @ niggas thinkin they job is secure forever even tho the world economy is comin down around our ears and china alredy owns your kids future

[KhillA]

lets just all post our credit scores and see who wins

Your FICO score is illegal.

not bad, slumlord millionaire.

[Employee]

lets just all post our credit scores and see who wins

Your FICO score is illegal.

not bad, slumlord millionaire.

/

Jai Ho, nigga.

[blessingindisguise]

This is an informative and real thread with fuckery kept to a minimum.

I'm curious though. How do cash rulz, ardamus, pack fm, icon, mindbender, intuition, rob sonic, and maclethal manage to record for free, distribute, and book shows for free.

From what i read in your posts over the years y'all never have to come out of pocket but seem to always profit and support yourself.

[Employee]

This is an informative and real thread with fuckery kept to a minimum.

I'm curious though. How do cash rulz, ardamus, pack fm, icon, mindbender, intuition, rob sonic, and maclethal manage to record for free, distribute, and book shows for free.

From what i read in your posts over the years y'all never have to come out of pocket but seem to always profit and support yourself.

Promoter Molestation. It is the scourge of the industry.

[CHANCE RANDOM]

I'm curious though. How do cash rulz, ardamus, pack fm, icon, mindbender, intuition, rob sonic, and maclethal manage to record for free, distribute, and book shows for free.

recording for free is easy; i imagine every one of the rappers you named have a studio set up or at least a friend with one. the mixing and mastering is what costs the real money. and booking shows for free should be a no-brainer; pay to play schemes are a shitty way to throw shows. you push your shit to bookers/club managers, you weasel your way on to other folks' bills and impress the bookers enough for them to invite you back, etc.

distribution, i have no clue. i'm pretty sure distribution isn't free, and a lot of money-spending goes on behind the curtain.

[Kno@qn5.com]

Life is too short to be miserable in what you spend the majority of your time doing. I grew up shitting in an outhouse, the fuck I look like pursuing something I hate for the "possibility of comfort"?

I had an art scholarship but a B.A. in graphic design ain't bustin' no grapes, either. I could have majored in something that would make more money...but I am an artist, period, so doing anything other than that is just "a job" to me.

Before I started taking music seriously I'd sold shoes, I'd built lawnmower motors, I'd worked as an IDC technician with benefits and a 401k -- all felt exactly the same.

I am not married and have no kids. I make art, art pays the bills...if and when it does not, I will work a job and make art in my spare time.

Pretty simple.

If you're thirty and you dont

-Have several albums and various projects out
-Have any publishing
-Have any imprint of your own
-Have no street team

Get the fuck out and save your own life.

Like someone already said -- Jay Electronica's biggest Phila dickriders are some of the same one's bashing rappers and telling them to hang it up. I guess its cool to be an unaccomplished, formerly homeless 34 year old rapper if YOU think they're dope. Fuck out of here.

And I think there are some defensive people on both sides of this -- I understand Thun's point, but even he would agree no woman has ever tatted one of his spreadsheets on her body.

Desk, pen, dump truck -- do what the fuck you enjoy.

I'd venture to say the more time someone spends on a site like this, the less they enjoy what they do for a living -- cus if they did enjoy it, they'd be over there doing that shit. *looks at post counts*

[KhillA]

I'd venture to say the more time someone spends on a site like this, the less they enjoy what they do for a living -- cus if they did enjoy it, they'd be over there doing that shit. *looks at post counts*

at yet another way to call Employee a faggot.

[Reggie]

And I think there are some defensive people on both sides of this -- I understand Thun's point, but even he would agree no woman has ever tatted one of his spreadsheets on her body.

Wow, you're right! That is totally worth it! If I start rapping now, how long do you think it will be before I get some of my lyrics tattooed over Estelle Getty on this chick?

[Kno@qn5.com]

Wow, you're right! That is totally worth it! If I start rapping now, how long do you think it will be before I get some of my lyrics tattooed over Estelle Getty on this chick?

Whoa, slow down.

How about leaving something as fleeting as a cumstain on a woman first before getting all crazy? Baby-steps.

[CasOne]

did someone just say cum and baby in the same post? because I was just at work and got a boner out of no where.

[Comedy Quaddafi]

did someone just say cum and baby in the same post? because I was just at work and got a boner out of no where.

Not cool. Mindbender and I are deeply offended by that post.

[sean]

michael died first, so prince won.
and now everybody in this thread turned gay.
lets make a secret handshake.

[Rob Sonic]

I made 1,587 dollars on music last month. my rent is a g I spent the rest on booze and pot. something tells me i could be doing better at rap and life in general

what up with that skate 3 money? just picked it up and was checkin the playlist... nice

wtf? The contract I signed was for "Rape 3" not skate 3! And this is how they getchya....

[Cash Rulz]

Like someone already said -- Jay Electronica's biggest Phila dickriders are some of the same one's bashing rappers and telling them to hang it up. I guess its cool to be an unaccomplished, formerly homeless 34 year old rapper if YOU think they're dope. Fuck out of here.

I'd venture to say the more time someone spends on a site like this, the less they enjoy what they do for a living -- cus if they did enjoy it, they'd be over there doing that shit. *looks at post counts*

Exactly!!!!!

and

Zing!!!!

[Thun]

Life is too short to be miserable in what you spend the majority of your time doing. I grew up shitting in an outhouse, the fuck I look like pursuing something I hate for the "possibility of comfort"?

I had an art scholarship but a B.A. in graphic design ain't bustin' no grapes, either. I could have majored in something that would make more money...but I am an artist, period, so doing anything other than that is just "a job" to me.

Before I started taking music seriously I'd sold shoes, I'd built lawnmower motors, I'd worked as an IDC technician with benefits and a 401k -- all felt exactly the same.

I am not married and have no kids. I make art, art pays the bills...if and when it does not, I will work a job and make art in my spare time.

Pretty simple.

If you're thirty and you dont

-Have several albums and various projects out
-Have any publishing
-Have any imprint of your own
-Have no street team

Get the fuck out and save your own life.

Like someone already said -- Jay Electronica's biggest Phila dickriders are some of the same one's bashing rappers and telling them to hang it up. I guess its cool to be an unaccomplished, formerly homeless 34 year old rapper if YOU think they're dope. Fuck out of here.

And I think there are some defensive people on both sides of this -- I understand Thun's point, but even he would agree no woman has ever tatted one of his spreadsheets on her body.

Desk, pen, dump truck -- do what the fuck you enjoy.

I'd venture to say the more time someone spends on a site like this, the less they enjoy what they do for a living -- cus if they did enjoy it, they'd be over there doing that shit. *looks at post counts*

Kno, nobody gives a shit whether you choose art over the much maligned "cubicle job."

Just don't ever act like working at a real job is some kind of hell that the majority of mankind would simply not endure if they could instead tour alongside Blueprint and Little Brother. That's just fucking stupid on numerous levels.

[Thun]

Also, how is Jay Electronica unaccomplished if he's made songs better than all underground rappers since 1997 combined?

;)

[Employee]

Life is too short to be miserable in what you spend the majority of your time doing. I grew up shitting in an outhouse, the fuck I look like pursuing something I hate for the "possibility of comfort"?

I had an art scholarship but a B.A. in graphic design ain't bustin' no grapes, either. I could have majored in something that would make more money...but I am an artist, period, so doing anything other than that is just "a job" to me.

Before I started taking music seriously I'd sold shoes, I'd built lawnmower motors, I'd worked as an IDC technician with benefits and a 401k -- all felt exactly the same.

I am not married and have no kids. I make art, art pays the bills...if and when it does not, I will work a job and make art in my spare time.

Pretty simple.

If you're thirty and you dont

-Have several albums and various projects out
-Have any publishing
-Have any imprint of your own
-Have no street team

Get the fuck out and save your own life.

Like someone already said -- Jay Electronica's biggest Phila dickriders are some of the same one's bashing rappers and telling them to hang it up. I guess its cool to be an unaccomplished, formerly homeless 34 year old rapper if YOU think they're dope. Fuck out of here.

And I think there are some defensive people on both sides of this -- I understand Thun's point, but even he would agree no woman has ever tatted one of his spreadsheets on her body.

Desk, pen, dump truck -- do what the fuck you enjoy.

I'd venture to say the more time someone spends on a site like this, the less they enjoy what they do for a living -- cus if they did enjoy it, they'd be over there doing that shit. *looks at post counts*

Your first album was financed by Jay Seagraves. That still haunts you to this day. No matter how many times you take a Freddie Gibbs snowball, you'll see the face of Lord Fard stuffing dollar bills in your g-string.

[Kno@qn5.com]

Kno, nobody gives a shit whether you choose art over the much maligned "cubicle job."

Apparently Gloss does, he made a thread about it.

Just don't ever act like working at a real job is some kind of hell that the majority of mankind would simply not endure if they could instead tour alongside Blueprint and Little Brother. That's just fucking stupid on numerous levels.

Didn't and never have. I just said do what you enjoy, regardless of what that is. If music is ever "over" for me I'll be making art, probably in a cubicle, when I finish up these last credits to get my degree. I'll be content designing menus for Ruby Tuesday because I'm able to create.

Cashmere is a good example of a "real-life" friend of mine who seems 100 times more happy continually educating himself and making moves in a corporate environment versus dealing with this dumb rap shit -- but he still does rap on the side because he's good at it and he likes it.

Your first album was financed by Jay Seagraves. That still haunts you to this day. No matter how many times you take a Freddie Gibbs snowball, you'll see the face of Lord Fard stuffing dollar bills in your g-string.

I've been involved in about 10+ releases funded by "other people's money", yet we own all our digital rights, masters and publishing. Its called smart business.

Who funds your meth habit, and does it recoup?

[Cash Rulz]

Also, how is Jay Electronica unaccomplished if he's made songs better than all underground rappers since 1997 combined?

;)

Riiiiight. Opinons...assholes. You know the rest.

[Employee]

I've been involved in about 10+ releases funded by "other people's money", yet we own all our digital rights, masters and publishing. Its called smart business.

Who funds your meth habit, and does it recoup?

I don't care about "10+ releases" of anything Cunninlynguists related seeing as you guys rank somewhere between Cyndi Lauper and Me Phi Me. The point is the Cunninlynguists' begged Lord Fard for seed money. The origins of your career are forever locked away in rolls of fat.