Kalel wrote:service wrote:Kalel wrote:This is a dope diss track but maybe you guys are going a little too ape shit with all the hype(?). Budden will respond, and guaranteed it'll be dope, and maybe it will go on for a while and when the dust clears we'll all leave with a great rap battle between two great emcees.
It's just that with Budden, you have to get past his dogshit rap voice and snoozeworthy beat selection to even get to the message. The guy is a goddamn chore to listen to, even if his writing is legitimately good.
Then on the other hand you have Saigon, who comes with not just a good rap song, but maybe the best song he's recorded, period, in the last year or so. He chooses the perfect beat, destroys it, destroys Budden, and actually sounds like a *gasp* rapper doing it.
There's no contest here, and that bizarre video Budden put up just makes it worse.
Your opinion. I personally don't have a problem with Joe's voice or whatever. Making an argument for beat selection for these past two tracks is almost insensible because they both could have picked any beat from the past 25 years and it just so happens Sai picked one of the rawest.
And all I'm really saying is that a lot of the same talk that's going on in this thread was being said in the last thread about Joey's song last week.
saigon clearly had a strategy. throw out a nonchalant diss track as a feeler. budden got gassed and thought he set some kind of trap and bragged about it (btw his adlibs and shit talking are gay) in his 2nd track, and that backfired terribly on him because saigon flipped that and fooled us into thinking he's wittier than joe, which i agree he's not
i mean, the illest line in this whole thing was "at this point i'm battling my own perception tryin to beat what's expected of me" but that doesn't change the fact that saigon made me lol fifty times more than anything joey said. i get it, kalel. he reps jersey. but come on, dawg, joey came corny in more than a few spots
why saigon is sonning joey:
1. any line about saigon being a deadbeat dad is tired at this point. his punchline about the same thing was what started all this and he his running to it for a cheap punchlines in BOTH diss tracks was too predictable.
saigon's response: talk shit about joey's son, how he dresses/talks/acts and how he's a faggot and how his father is the reason and at fault for letting all this happen. much more lol-inducing. he even plays the convo between joey and said gay son.
2. joey acts nonchalant, then when he thinks saigon "took his bait", he gets SUPER GEEKED on his 2nd track acting like he's dwight eisenhower playing risk and he keeps talkin shit about saigon having 'fallen into the trap' and it just comes off as corny to me
saigon's response: oh you thought i would come with the ether with underachiever? naw faggot i gave you takeover first, then ethered you with the 2nd
3. joey talkin shit about sai being a wide receiver
sai's response: you know the bars...play your position
4. joey with the gay jokes
sai's response: hardy har har...YOUR SON PLAYS WITH BARBIE DOLLS
5. joey ends both tracks with the beat stopping and him half fading out and it just sounds cheap and gay.
and i actually like joe budden a lot.
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