Carl Lewis and other tarnished careers

Andvil · Post by **Andvil** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:30 am

let's try and run through *WINK!!!* all the great athletes who are more well known for something stupid they did rather than for their incredible accomplishments in sports.

http://www.frenchboxing.com/leftovers/m ... Anthem.mp3

so funny

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:35 am

even though that was ridiculous, i still remember lewis for being an american hero insted.

this thread has tyson,rodman, doc gooden, and artest written all over it.

Prophecy · Post by **Prophecy** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:55 am

Gregg Popabitch wrote:even though that was ridiculous, i still remember lewis for being an american hero insted.

this thread has tyson,rodman, doc gooden, and artest written all over it.

ummmmmm bonds.........

the brow · Post by **the brow** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:02 am

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:16 am

Prophecy wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:even though that was ridiculous, i still remember lewis for being an american hero insted.

this thread has tyson,rodman, doc gooden, and artest written all over it.
ummmmmm bonds.........

lol, him too.

the brow · Post by **the brow** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:33 am

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:37 am

the brow wrote:

WAIT YOU KNOW ABOUT THINGS THAT DO NO PERTAIN TO FOOTBALL?!??!?!

MY WORLD IS TURNING UPSIDE DOWN

the brow · Post by **the brow** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:15 am

I'm pretty one-dimensional.

stupidregister · Post by **stupidregister** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:21 am

Move Free · Post by **Move Free** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:23 am

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:23 am

Move Free · Post by **Move Free** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:07 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:

thats the one!!

Cash Rulz · Post by **Cash Rulz** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:08 pm

stupidregister wrote:

Winner!!!!!

Arguably one of the top 5 best RBs ever and all he'll ever be remembered for is someone sliced his ex and white people didn't like that he got off for it.

Beek · Post by **Beek** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:35 pm

When you think of AC Green, do you think "ironman" or "virgin"?

MaskedTerror # 2 · Post by **MaskedTerror # 2** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:40 pm

This could be a very long thread.

Hell, the cowboys alone could populate a full page.

I have so many favorites. But this one fits the bill.

Slavery has hurt our families. It's hurt our families big time. The conditions of the inner cities has hurt our families and other people's families also, and it's always interesting to me to understand one thing. Actually, I was told this by a friend of mine and a friend of his told him. We always should look at the situation and ask ourselves a question. Why did God create us differently? Why did God make me black and you white? Why did God make the next guy Korean and the next guy Asian and the other guy Hispanic? Why did God create the Indians?

Well, it's interesting to me to know why now. When you look at the black race, black people are very gifted in what we call worship and celebration. A lot of us like to dance, and if you go to black churches, you see people jumping up and down, because they really get into it.

White people were blessed with the gift of structure and organization. You guys do a good job of building businesses and things of that nature and you know how to tap into money pretty much better than a lot of people do around the world.

Hispanics are gifted in family structure. You can see a Hispanic person and they can put 20 or 30 people in one home. They were gifted in the family structure.

When you look at the Asians, the Asian is very gifted in creation, creativity and inventions. If you go to Japan or any Asian country, they can turn a television into a watch. They're very creative. And you look at the Indians, they have been very gifted in the spirituality.

.........

As America has permitted homosexuality to establish itself as an alternate lifestyle, it is also reeling from the frightening spread of sexually transmitted disease. Sin begets its own consequence, both on individuals and nations.

Let me explain something when I'm talking about sin, and I'm talking about all sin. One of the biggest ones that has been talked about that has really become a debate in America is homosexuality.

Now, I believe that one of the reasons that Jesus was accused of being a homosexual is because he spent time with homosexuals. I've often had people ask me, would you allow a homosexual to be your friend. Yes, I will. And the reason I will is because I know that that person has problems, and if I can minister to those problems, I will.

But the Bible strictly speaks against it, and because the Bible speaks against it, we allow rampant sin including homosexuality and lying, and to me lying is just as bad as homosexuality, we've allowed this sin to run rampant in our nation, and because it has run rampant in our nation, our nation is in the condition it is today.

Sometimes when people talk about this sin they've been accused of being racist. I'm offended that homosexuals will say that homosexuals deserve rights. Any man in America deserves rights, but homosexuals are trying to compare their plight with the plight of black men or black people.

In the process of history, homosexuals have never been castrated, millions of them never died. Homosexuality is a decision. It's not a race. And when you look at it, people from all different ethnic backgrounds are living this lifestyle, but people from all different ethnic backgrounds are also liars and cheaters and malicious and backstabbers.

We're in sin, and because this nation is in sin, God will judge it if we don't get it right.

.......

They couldn't enslave the Indians because the Indians knew the territory, and the Indians knew how to sneak up on people

these are from a speech to a school in Tenn.

You look at our society today and in particular in our inner-city communities. You know I had a guy ask me a few years ago, he said, 'Why don't black athletes go back and help their people?' Simple. There's a simple answer to that question. The reason black professionals forget about where they came from is because when you haven't been taught your history and when you haven't been taught your heritage you don't appreciate yourself let alone appreciate your neighbor.

You look at the Jewish community, they teach their history. They teach their children about the Holocaust. They force their kids to be educated. And because of that we have a lot of guys that just don't know what to do and to be honest with you they don't care. A lot of them don't care. A lot of them do. LeRoy's one of the guys that cares. He's trying to find out a way that he can help make your life better, that he can help to get you to a similar level that he's on. He cares. That's why he comes back. He don't have to do this. We don't have to be out here, but this is important to us. And we want to make it important to you.

I've talked to many young people. And I want to admit one thing. I do not understand what you guys are going through. I can't identify with what you're going through. You know some of your language today I may get up and say something you don't even know what I'm talking about and when you say it I don't know what you're talking about. I remember I went to a high school one time in Detroit and I said 'pistol' and nobody knew what I was talking about. I didn't know you called pistols 'gats' today in the neighborhood. So our labels has changed. Some of us cannot identify with what you're going through but you know what? We see it and we're tired of seeing our young people dying for no reason and we're tired of seeing you allowing the powerful few to dictate how you live. There are people in this country that has their focus totally on you and you may ask the question, 'How is that?'

Condom sales. That's a moneymaker. You got young people today that's buying Playboy magazines. That's a moneymaker. (Laughter.) Hugh Hefner's making a whole lot of money off a whole lot of people from buying his magazine. Then there's sex. You get pregnant. You get a disease. You catch AIDS.

You know why they're not doing all they can to find a cure for AIDS? It's because if they find a cure for AIDS everybody starts getting well and nobody wants to keep spending their money. So they ain't going to find no cure. Because they want you to have diseases, and young ladies let me tell you something about babies.

There's a certain section of our society that know that babies are worth money and they know that if you get pregnant and if you get it aborted, most of you don't know, those babies are worth a lot of money. Why? Because they use these babies for what they call fetal tissue research. You know what they do with these babies when they come out? They take them out -- alive. They stick a needle that long in the back of their head. They pull the baby's brains out and they use the baby's brains for fetal tissue research, which we're paying for. That baby's worth a whole lot of money.

Jesus was from the ghetto. He was from the 'hood. Go back and read it for yourself. He was from the 'hood. And then he went out and he educated himself. He knew more than the lawgivers knew and he used it against them because the lawgivers wasn't helping the people that they were supposed to be helping, they were robbing these people, the same thing that many people are doing today in most of our neighborhoods. But you know what? He was the ultimate gang leader because he went out and got 12 thugs to follow him. He did! Read about it. They were hard-core fishermen. Peter'd cuss you out in a minute. (Laughter.) They were hard-core. These guys weren't from glamorous communities. They didn't have glamorous jobs. Some of them were tax collectors. They were stealing money from folk. They're doing the same thing today. No just kidding. Tax collectors. Anyway, that wasn't funny. OK. The adults know what I'm talking about. Alright. Right on.

Epitome · Post by **Epitome** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:26 pm

Whos is the source of those quotes?

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:26 am

Whos is the source of those quotes?

That's what I wanna know.

four_see · Post by **four_see** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:17 am

reggie white i think

shopvack · Post by **shopvack** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:18 pm

this might be because i'm a packer fan, but i remember reggie more for how he threw people around like inflatable dummies than those comments.

Dunnnnleavy · Post by **Dunnnnleavy** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:44 pm

shopvack wrote:this might be because i'm a packer fan, but i remember reggie more for how he threw people around like inflatable dummies than those comments.

yea, i highly doubt White's career is overshadowed by those comments. you're stretching the topic here...is LT more known for what he did on the field or for a cocaine problem? of course, you'll probably pick the former.

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:24 pm

ummmm.. Shawn Kemp anybody?
Grant Hill could possibly another one. Will he be remembered by his amazing seasons in detroit or the last x amount of years being injury prone?

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:45 am

yeah OJ pretty much takes this thread.

MaskedTerror # 2 · Post by **MaskedTerror # 2** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:00 am

Dunnnnleavy wrote:
shopvack wrote:this might be because i'm a packer fan, but i remember reggie more for how he threw people around like inflatable dummies than those comments.
yea, i highly doubt White's career is overshadowed by those comments. you're stretching the topic here...is LT more known for what he did on the field or for a cocaine problem? of course, you'll probably pick the former.

I don't think it is a stretch at all. True, it might not be the first that comes to mind, but I think those comments and others helped to ruin a shining reputation.

Comparing a great Dlineman to the greatest D player of all time in order to deflect is not a solid argument to me. Because one, if you want to say LT's career is somewhat tarnished by the badass he was off the field, then you have an argument (a wrong one IMO) but what does that have to do with Reggie White? And two, the idea that LT was a hellraiser and someone who could compete at the highest level while carrying a serious coke habit only, in my mind, enhances him as a player and as a man.

And it was only off the field shennanigans that made people question the dude. His career was practically flawless aside from jumping ship from philly (a move I approved). Ask Max Lane what he remembers him for, but still, it fits this thread.

White was a man of God who had this shimmering reputation, but in his actual life he held beliefs that painted him more as Hitler in cleats. I remember they thought this dude was going to run for govenor of Tenn. His public life was more than football, and it was completely ruined. No disrespect, but his death erased that.