Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote: So you complain about seeing a girl willingly get groped on stage, yet you think it's ok for other people's kids to see your dick when you expose yourself in public. Makes a lot of sense...

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Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote: So you complain about seeing a girl willingly get groped on stage, yet you think it's ok for other people's kids to see your dick when you expose yourself in public. Makes a lot of sense...
Mindbender Futurama wrote: some of you haters have nothing without your hate for me. congradufuckinlations for behaving like an unflushable piece of shit![]()
Not for nothin', but this is one of the most problematic reflections of patriarchal/misogynist attitudes in this whole 'incident'/thread.Mindbender Futurama wrote: I saw Necrodamus come over and protect that little girl's innocence and purity like a protective father with some very liberal views on sexuality.
Yeah. Dealing with all of us simpletons must get pretty annoying.Mindbender Futurama wrote:still waiting for mature, intelligent discussion to reply to![]()
first: you're welcome. thank you for saying thank you. that's a rare sentiment around here.Piff Tannen wrote:i thought the boob jiggling was going to be way more aggressive and worse. the only cringeworthy part was the end where he tossed her away at the end and that could be attributed to the performance, the moment, already being awkwardly positioned, etc.
i think your already existing hate for bronson is coloring your perspective on this incident greatly mindbender, but thanks for being a sport and letting us in on the story/background behind the song
Dr Dre, Big Pun and Biggie have done much worse than Bronson. You not a fan of theirs?Mindbender Futurama wrote:I don't think i'm missing much by not listening to his music, and i don't support his life ideology at all if he manhandles women so revoltingly.
Y@k Bollocks wrote:Yeah. Dealing with all of us simpletons must get pretty annoying.Mindbender Futurama wrote:still waiting for mature, intelligent discussion to reply to![]()
Not a SINGLE one of us getting you or your music after eleven years and 36936 posts. I mean, I don't think I could be bothered with it.
Theres actual video of Pun and Dre admitted to battering Dee Barnesstep one wrote:Dr Dre, Big Pun and Biggie have done much worse than Bronson. You not a fan of theirs?Mindbender Futurama wrote:I don't think i'm missing much by not listening to his music, and i don't support his life ideology at all if he manhandles women so revoltingly.
I wasn't noting anything wrong with Necro's behavior (although, since it's Necro, I'm sure there were plenty of things wrong with it), but was pointing out that you are praising him, in your words, for "protecting" the "innocence" and "purity" of a young woman (who you later made effort to note was white) like a "father". All of that--female purity & innocence, fatherly protection of white virginity--reflects values straight from the patriarchy playbook. I actually respect what you say you're trying to do with your life, in terms of seeking some sort of radical gender equality, but you very frequently (on PF at least) end up sounding like a patriarchal asshole with a big ass ego. This is one of those times.Mindbender Futurama wrote: fourize, what do you mean? I am saying I saw Necro literally allowing a naked white girl to gyrate on stage with 20 people around and hundreds of people in the crowd, and he stood behind her to make sure nobody did anything to hurt her. I don't got a problem with that.
ha ha, word. and thank you.fourize wrote:I wasn't noting anything wrong with Necro's behavior (although, since it's Necro, I'm sure there were plenty of things wrong with it), but was pointing out that you are praising him, in your words, for "protecting" the "innocence" and "purity" of a young woman (who you later made effort to note was white) like a "father". All of that--female purity & innocence, fatherly protection of white virginity--reflects values straight from the patriarchy playbook. I actually respect what you say you're trying to do with your life, in terms of seeking some sort of radical gender equality, but you very frequently (on PF at least) end up sounding like a patriarchal asshole with a big ass ego. This is one of those times.Mindbender Futurama wrote: fourize, what do you mean? I am saying I saw Necro literally allowing a naked white girl to gyrate on stage with 20 people around and hundreds of people in the crowd, and he stood behind her to make sure nobody did anything to hurt her. I don't got a problem with that.
thatkidnero wrote:I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read all that shit. I just wanna note that I know people who know that chick and she was very loud about going to that show expressly to try and fuck Danny Brown, and when that didn't happen she happily settled for felating Action Bronson instead.
Speaking (or writing) is an action, though. And if you're championing ideologies of purity and innocence as linked inextricably to young (white) women, and claiming that fatherly/patriarchal protection of those virtues is some noble act from Necro, you might not be the best 'educator'.Mindbender Futurama wrote:ha ha, word. and thank you.fourize wrote:I wasn't noting anything wrong with Necro's behavior (although, since it's Necro, I'm sure there were plenty of things wrong with it), but was pointing out that you are praising him, in your words, for "protecting" the "innocence" and "purity" of a young woman (who you later made effort to note was white) like a "father". All of that--female purity & innocence, fatherly protection of white virginity--reflects values straight from the patriarchy playbook. I actually respect what you say you're trying to do with your life, in terms of seeking some sort of radical gender equality, but you very frequently (on PF at least) end up sounding like a patriarchal asshole with a big ass ego. This is one of those times.Mindbender Futurama wrote: fourize, what do you mean? I am saying I saw Necro literally allowing a naked white girl to gyrate on stage with 20 people around and hundreds of people in the crowd, and he stood behind her to make sure nobody did anything to hurt her. I don't got a problem with that.
and i don't really mind what i sound like. i care more about my actions, and how positively they impact the world and the people i'm trying to help.
it's hard work doing this shit, and it's virtually impossible work trying to educate people... PERIOD.
EARTH MOTHERFUCKERS SURE DO LOVE THEIR PRIVILEGE TO PERPETUATE THEIR OWN IGNORANCE!
Not to say I'm not also stupid sometimes, I make bad decisions too! I'm God, but I'm not some infallible deity.
I sleep good at night knowing that I'm NOT some patriarchal hypocrite or a misogynistic double dealing douchebag who preaches equality on one hand, but exploits and absues women on the other. I may sound like I have a big ego, but it's only because I have a big brain, LOL. My heart is ALWAYS bigger than my ego, whether in matters pertaining to hip hop culture or in matters of social justice.
And trust me, this is not what I'm saying I'm doing with my life... THIS IS THE TRUTH OF MY LIFE, FAR BEYOND WORDS on a computer screen or words out of my mouth. I have real world relationships and real life commitments that are building on the vital idea of radical gender equality and global human sexual liberation.
yeah homie... i read your reply. i felt like i answered it farther back in the thread.ackbar wrote:i have a mature reply on the last page. a lot of people think pornographynis inherently sexist
I see what you are saying. But I didn't mean any of that (especially that young white women are the bastion of purity and innocence). I just meant that, a human being was expressing their sexual freedom, and another person was there to protect them. I am cool with all of that happening at any point in time.fourize wrote:Speaking (or writing) is an action, though. And if you're championing ideologies of purity and innocence as linked inextricably to young (white) women, and claiming that fatherly/patriarchal protection of those virtues is some noble act from Necro, you might not be the best 'educator'.Mindbender Futurama wrote:ha ha, word. and thank you.fourize wrote:I wasn't noting anything wrong with Necro's behavior (although, since it's Necro, I'm sure there were plenty of things wrong with it), but was pointing out that you are praising him, in your words, for "protecting" the "innocence" and "purity" of a young woman (who you later made effort to note was white) like a "father". All of that--female purity & innocence, fatherly protection of white virginity--reflects values straight from the patriarchy playbook. I actually respect what you say you're trying to do with your life, in terms of seeking some sort of radical gender equality, but you very frequently (on PF at least) end up sounding like a patriarchal asshole with a big ass ego. This is one of those times.Mindbender Futurama wrote: fourize, what do you mean? I am saying I saw Necro literally allowing a naked white girl to gyrate on stage with 20 people around and hundreds of people in the crowd, and he stood behind her to make sure nobody did anything to hurt her. I don't got a problem with that.
and i don't really mind what i sound like. i care more about my actions, and how positively they impact the world and the people i'm trying to help.
it's hard work doing this shit, and it's virtually impossible work trying to educate people... PERIOD.
EARTH MOTHERFUCKERS SURE DO LOVE THEIR PRIVILEGE TO PERPETUATE THEIR OWN IGNORANCE!
Not to say I'm not also stupid sometimes, I make bad decisions too! I'm God, but I'm not some infallible deity.
I sleep good at night knowing that I'm NOT some patriarchal hypocrite or a misogynistic double dealing douchebag who preaches equality on one hand, but exploits and absues women on the other. I may sound like I have a big ego, but it's only because I have a big brain, LOL. My heart is ALWAYS bigger than my ego, whether in matters pertaining to hip hop culture or in matters of social justice.
And trust me, this is not what I'm saying I'm doing with my life... THIS IS THE TRUTH OF MY LIFE, FAR BEYOND WORDS on a computer screen or words out of my mouth. I have real world relationships and real life commitments that are building on the vital idea of radical gender equality and global human sexual liberation.
Equating women with purity and innocence is exploitation (and biblically rooted as fuck). Sure, it's not juggling a (potentially unwilling) woman's breasts on stage or smacking Dee Barnes, but it's just as much a product of patriarchal gender relations as those are.
if you agree she provided consent and no assault occurred, then the only person at fault is yourself for attending the concert. just like i would be the only person at fault if i got upset after watching a pornography that a woman willingly participated inMindbender Futurama wrote:and i disgustingly agree: her actions DID constitute non-verbal consent, as soon as she stayed there and didn't walk away or physically remove his hand while he was groping and abusing her tit.
response:Mindbender Futurama wrote:some of you guys keep failing to see the higher point: IT'S NOT JUST -HER- HONOR AND DIGNITY THAT MATTERS... it's EVERYONE'S. Mine included.
no. it's reasonable that I expected to go to the concert and not see a woman physically manhandled. i went to go see music and rapping. i just wanted to express my outrage at what i saw once, and i did. i feel fine. the girl is fine. AB is happy being the "man" he is. i have really moved on in life. when i speak to you guys in this post, i'm speaking from the place of disgust i felt at the time (even though i still have the same i-love-women values today). i'm not trying to stop AB from rapping, i don't give a fuck about dude, i really don't spend time angry at him.ackbar wrote:if you agree she provided consent and no assault occurred, then the only person at fault is yourself for attending the concert. just like i would be the only person at fault if i got upset after watching a pornography that a woman willingly participated inMindbender Futurama wrote:and i disgustingly agree: her actions DID constitute non-verbal consent, as soon as she stayed there and didn't walk away or physically remove his hand while he was groping and abusing her tit.
response:Mindbender Futurama wrote:some of you guys keep failing to see the higher point: IT'S NOT JUST -HER- HONOR AND DIGNITY THAT MATTERS... it's EVERYONE'S. Mine included.
now we're all playing judge, jury and executioner to each other's art and business??? that is the absolute end of freedom right there, mang. if people didn't do things because other people thought they were offensive, we'd be living in the most conservative bastion of oppression ever and NOBODY could EVER do ANYTHING because someone else might be offended by it. sorry bruh. we can't fucking do that to each other. your values can't control my life.
Julius Seizure wrote:You didn't make a song and keep it moving. You made a song, and promoted it publicly. And voiced got opinion on twitter. And Facebook. And in comments sections. And now months later on this board. You did anything but keep it moving.
My thoughts as to why? You crave attention, good or bad. You crave validation. You received little validation for your music, or not enough to meet your needs, and you have now moved on to porn to find another venue where you will be validated. You need validation from many, many women because one would never be enough; there could never be enough. It isn't about a love of sex or a worshipping of women. It is about the need to find value in yourself through contact with others. You crave validation on this website. "I'm going to have sex right now." "I'm having appointments for sex with three different goddesses today." And your constant denial of this is proof positive that this is the case. "I don't care what you people think." "I don't need to impress anybody." Yes, you do. Validation is air to you. You need it for survival. When you get even the smallest, or backhandedest, or sarcastic, or facetious, or genuine compliment from someone on here, you lap it up like a dog after a long walk on a hot day. That person automatically becomes your friend, your homey, you ally. They are down with you and all your stand for. When you are criticized without some measure of praise to balance the criticism, you lash out angrily, unleashing frightening anger, and ungodly venom. For someone so godly and above it all, you string together combinations of hate filled words as effortlessly as any troll on the internet. There is deep anger and resentment and yes, hate, that resides in your subconscious. Even a person who has been perceived as an ally becomes an enemy if they do not provide validation. You continue to post music in a place where you have been ruthlessly attacked for years, where people don't enjoy your art. You (and your bro) crave validation from American hip hop fans; you will argue this point, and you certainly love to attack our country, but deep down you want to be accepted by the country that created your art form. Even when you cannot get praise or positive attention, you will settle for hate and negative responses from people, because at least you have gotten someone's attention, at least you know you exist on this planet if people have taken the time to insult and attack and mock you.
I am not trying to attack you. I am giving you my thoughts, even though they have not been asked for. Why can't you truly be a happy with who you are? Why do you have this emptiness that must be filled with approval, validation, attention from others? Has it always been this way? Don't you ever stop to think about how desperate this craving has become?
the two main reasons hes like this is becausepeanut butter wrote:Julius Seizure wrote:You didn't make a song and keep it moving. You made a song, and promoted it publicly. And voiced got opinion on twitter. And Facebook. And in comments sections. And now months later on this board. You did anything but keep it moving.
My thoughts as to why? You crave attention, good or bad. You crave validation. You received little validation for your music, or not enough to meet your needs, and you have now moved on to porn to find another venue where you will be validated. You need validation from many, many women because one would never be enough; there could never be enough. It isn't about a love of sex or a worshipping of women. It is about the need to find value in yourself through contact with others. You crave validation on this website. "I'm going to have sex right now." "I'm having appointments for sex with three different goddesses today." And your constant denial of this is proof positive that this is the case. "I don't care what you people think." "I don't need to impress anybody." Yes, you do. Validation is air to you. You need it for survival. When you get even the smallest, or backhandedest, or sarcastic, or facetious, or genuine compliment from someone on here, you lap it up like a dog after a long walk on a hot day. That person automatically becomes your friend, your homey, you ally. They are down with you and all your stand for. When you are criticized without some measure of praise to balance the criticism, you lash out angrily, unleashing frightening anger, and ungodly venom. For someone so godly and above it all, you string together combinations of hate filled words as effortlessly as any troll on the internet. There is deep anger and resentment and yes, hate, that resides in your subconscious. Even a person who has been perceived as an ally becomes an enemy if they do not provide validation. You continue to post music in a place where you have been ruthlessly attacked for years, where people don't enjoy your art. You (and your bro) crave validation from American hip hop fans; you will argue this point, and you certainly love to attack our country, but deep down you want to be accepted by the country that created your art form. Even when you cannot get praise or positive attention, you will settle for hate and negative responses from people, because at least you have gotten someone's attention, at least you know you exist on this planet if people have taken the time to insult and attack and mock you.
I am not trying to attack you. I am giving you my thoughts, even though they have not been asked for. Why can't you truly be a happy with who you are? Why do you have this emptiness that must be filled with approval, validation, attention from others? Has it always been this way? Don't you ever stop to think about how desperate this craving has become?
PEACE
thekeentwo wrote:hustler we can totally have sex
Julius Seizure wrote:You didn't make a song and keep it moving. You made a song, and promoted it publicly. And voiced got opinion on twitter. And Facebook. And in comments sections. And now months later on this board. You did anything but keep it moving.
My thoughts as to why? You crave attention, good or bad. You crave validation. You received little validation for your music, or not enough to meet your needs, and you have now moved on to porn to find another venue where you will be validated. You need validation from many, many women because one would never be enough; there could never be enough. It isn't about a love of sex or a worshipping of women. It is about the need to find value in yourself through contact with others. You crave validation on this website. "I'm going to have sex right now." "I'm having appointments for sex with three different goddesses today." And your constant denial of this is proof positive that this is the case. "I don't care what you people think." "I don't need to impress anybody." Yes, you do. Validation is air to you. You need it for survival. When you get even the smallest, or backhandedest, or sarcastic, or facetious, or genuine compliment from someone on here, you lap it up like a dog after a long walk on a hot day. That person automatically becomes your friend, your homey, you ally. They are down with you and all your stand for. When you are criticized without some measure of praise to balance the criticism, you lash out angrily, unleashing frightening anger, and ungodly venom. For someone so godly and above it all, you string together combinations of hate filled words as effortlessly as any troll on the internet. There is deep anger and resentment and yes, hate, that resides in your subconscious. Even a person who has been perceived as an ally becomes an enemy if they do not provide validation. You continue to post music in a place where you have been ruthlessly attacked for years, where people don't enjoy your art. You (and your bro) crave validation from American hip hop fans; you will argue this point, and you certainly love to attack our country, but deep down you want to be accepted by the country that created your art form. Even when you cannot get praise or positive attention, you will settle for hate and negative responses from people, because at least you have gotten someone's attention, at least you know you exist on this planet if people have taken the time to insult and attack and mock you.
I am not trying to attack you. I am giving you my thoughts, even though they have not been asked for. Why can't you truly be a happy with who you are? Why do you have this emptiness that must be filled with approval, validation, attention from others? Has it always been this way? Don't you ever stop to think about how desperate this craving has become?
Julius Seizure wrote:You didn't make a song and keep it moving. You made a song, and promoted it publicly. And voiced got opinion on twitter. And Facebook. And in comments sections. And now months later on this board. You did anything but keep it moving.
My thoughts as to why? You crave attention, good or bad. You crave validation. You received little validation for your music, or not enough to meet your needs, and you have now moved on to porn to find another venue where you will be validated. You need validation from many, many women because one would never be enough; there could never be enough. It isn't about a love of sex or a worshipping of women. It is about the need to find value in yourself through contact with others. You crave validation on this website. "I'm going to have sex right now." "I'm having appointments for sex with three different goddesses today." And your constant denial of this is proof positive that this is the case. "I don't care what you people think." "I don't need to impress anybody." Yes, you do. Validation is air to you. You need it for survival. When you get even the smallest, or backhandedest, or sarcastic, or facetious, or genuine compliment from someone on here, you lap it up like a dog after a long walk on a hot day. That person automatically becomes your friend, your homey, you ally. They are down with you and all your stand for. When you are criticized without some measure of praise to balance the criticism, you lash out angrily, unleashing frightening anger, and ungodly venom. For someone so godly and above it all, you string together combinations of hate filled words as effortlessly as any troll on the internet. There is deep anger and resentment and yes, hate, that resides in your subconscious. Even a person who has been perceived as an ally becomes an enemy if they do not provide validation. You continue to post music in a place where you have been ruthlessly attacked for years, where people don't enjoy your art. You (and your bro) crave validation from American hip hop fans; you will argue this point, and you certainly love to attack our country, but deep down you want to be accepted by the country that created your art form. Even when you cannot get praise or positive attention, you will settle for hate and negative responses from people, because at least you have gotten someone's attention, at least you know you exist on this planet if people have taken the time to insult and attack and mock you.
I am not trying to attack you. I am giving you my thoughts, even though they have not been asked for. Why can't you truly be a happy with who you are? Why do you have this emptiness that must be filled with approval, validation, attention from others? Has it always been this way? Don't you ever stop to think about how desperate this craving has become?