The Official NBA Draft/Offseason Thread

[unclebengi]

And weird, considering that other than the expected playoff sellouts, the Pacers were one of the worst in the league in attendance all year. It doesn't surprise me that Hibbert would do that though, he has his own section called "Area 55" in the Fieldhouse and he auditions fans to give free season tickets to every year. He kinda goes out of his way to be liked though.

[Blockhead]

Kidd signed on to coach the Nets for three years.
Hmm...

[Shade Tree]

No way that Billy King made a bad decision here.

[Shade Tree]

I also believe that Brian Shaw will only get a head coaching job if he kills and eats an incumbent.

[peanut butter]

Seriously? That's hilarious.



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[peanut butter]

I mean, last offseason, Kidd was busy gettin wasted in the Hamptons and wrappin his whip around telephone poles. So this is certainly a step in a different direction for him.



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[Joe Pesci]

This kind of has PR disaster written all over it when they inevitably will have to fire him.

[naturalborn103]

Who was the last person to go directly from player to coach?

[peanut butter]

This kind of has PR disaster written all over it when they inevitably will have to fire him.

Nets-Jets-Mets




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[Joe Pesci]

This kind of has PR disaster written all over it when they inevitably will have to fire him.

Nets-Jets-Mets




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Thank god I'm not a Mets fan. My relationship with the other two goes a little something like this:

[naturalborn103]

netw3rk (@netw3rk) tweeted at 10:20 PM on Wed, Jun 12, 2013:
Underrated detail: Kidd will be immune to any coach-killer moves from Deron because he invented them.

[Shade Tree]

Who was the last person to go directly from player to coach?

Avery Johnson? He was the assistant by title, but wasn't Nellie all checked out at that point?

[Reason]

i'm genuinely happy the nets hired jason kidd

[Ramen]

feel bad for B Shaw...again

[peanut butter]

i'm genuinely happy the nets hired jason kidd

Why?



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[Big Breeze]

If I were Kidd I would have wanted to step away from the game for awhile. Maybe he just has to be active and can't stay still.

Bill Russell was a player/coach back in the day. Some may even argue that Kidd was one too.

[naturalborn103]

league’s competition committee discussed banning players from standing out of bounds on offense and adding a "challenge flag" to be used in last 2 minutes of games.

I remember I noticed Anthony Davis doing that a bunch early in the season. I don't get why they would ban it.

[Big Breeze]

"Challenge flag"? End of games are already long enough. This is basketball, not football. Fuck the inclusion of that rule if it passes.

[Hayzoos]

What does the challenge flag grant the coach? A review of fouls?

[Jayou Ayen]

Bill Russell was a player/coach back in the day. Some may even argue that Kidd was one too.

Tweak enjoyed watching Al Attles as Warriors player coach back in 70-71.



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[naturalborn103]

Stu Jackson spoke to a couple of reporters, myself included, at length about potential rule changes the league’s competition committee discussed behind closed doors this week. Among them: a potential “challenge flag” system for coaches to use only in the last two minutes of regulation and overtime. The committee did not come to a consensus on that issue, though they did agree that if the league does adopt such a system, they should at first use it in postseason games only. Coaches would get only one challenge per game.

The committee did recommend a new rule banning players from standing out of bounds on offense, Jackson says. The league says eight teams made regular use of this tactic to drag defenders away from the action, and the Nuggets, to my eye, were probably the foremost practitioner of this trickery. George Karl, their former coach, quipped to me that, “Hey, sometimes the other team guards you out of bounds.” We could dub this the Professor Andre Miller Rule, or the JaVale McGee Violation.

“It just looks bad,” Jackson says of the strategy. He also pointed out that there is a “slippery slope” here in the league’s view — that there’s no rule to stop a team from stationing four players out of bounds in an attempt to get a true isolation situation for a superstar. It’s easy to say that defenders should just ignore guys who are standing several feet out of bounds, but Jackson says that’s not realistic. Those offensive players could sneak around the baseline and back onto the court, meaning defenders have to at least pay them some attention.

In a potentially big change, the committee recommended the league allow officials to review all aspects of a block/charge call in the last two minutes of regulation and overtime. Under current rules, officials can only review one aspect of such calls: whether a defender’s feet were inside the restricted area when the foul occurs. If the officials initially call a charge based on the notion that the defender was outside the restricted area but decide to review that call, they can only review that one thing — the location of the defender’s feet. Under current rules, if the guy’s feet were indeed outside the restricted area, the play stands as a charge, even if the replay reveals the defensive player had not established legal guarding position (or did something else against the rules).

If the Board of Governors adopts this recommendation, the officials in this situation will be able to review everything about that block/charge call. This is a big deal. The league has tried to minimize the extent to which officials can look back on “judgment calls”; most reviews limit them to fairly black-and-white things, such as the location of a defender’s feet or whether a shot should count as a 3-pointer or 2-pointer. The league has been wary of subjecting judgment calls to replay review, because doing so could in theory subject every single call to the replay treatment.

The committee opened the door in this case because, Jackson says, the “judgment call” portion here is limited to a very discrete block/charge situation that doesn’t come up all that much. He claims officials have only reviewed five restricted area calls within the last two minutes of regulation and overtime all season. “In contrast to the slippery slope of judgment calls, this is a very narrow area of review,” Jackson said. “And so we’ve cracked the door.”

Oh, and Jackson said the committee was unanimous that the current system of fines “has worked this year.” I’m pretty sure they are wrong, but to their credit, they said they will continue discussing the problem.

They should get it so computers can make a lot of calls. resetting shot clock, out of bounds, etc. can all be done by computers pretty easily and should be mistake free.

[naturalborn103]

Who was the last person to go directly from player to coach?

Avery Johnson? He was the assistant by title, but wasn't Nellie all checked out at that point?

justin (san francisco)
thoughts on the kidd hiring for the nets?
Kevin Pelton
(3:58 PM) It's hard to say much beyond "I don't know." There is no real track record to go on. ESPN Stats & Info has pointed out the last player to coach the year after retirement was Mike Dunleavy, but that was a different scenario -- Dunleavy was an assistant coach who briefly suited up due to injuries, not a full-time player with no experience as a head coach.

[peanut butter]

In honesty, Kidd getting the Nets job will be a blessing in disguise for Shaw. There are so many better opportunities out there for a first time coach, namely Denver, LA, Memphis and maybe even Boston. Now if Shaw gets shut out for jobs again, that obviously changes things. But with all the other good jobs out there, its likely Shaw ends up dodging a bullet here, and landing in a better place.



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[Ramen]

I agree with that, still it must feel shitty to get passed on for Jason Kidd.

[Philaflava]

CSB. Went to a dermatology today to remove a mole, found out after the fact she is married to Greg Anthony.

[capable_keL]

tests came back negative on the mole, bro?

[naturalborn103]

[unclebengi]

Heard the T-Wolves are locked in on Oladipo and are willing to move up a couple of spots if they have to to get him.

I'm hoping Shaw lands in Denver. That's the best job IMO and it's down to him and Hollins. Memphis would be great too, haven't heard anything about who they have in mind.

[Philaflava]

tests came back negative on the mole, bro?

No test needed. She saw the D though.

[peanut butter]

CP3 tryin to link up with Dwight, according to Broussard's always reliable sources



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