R.A. The Rugged Man's "Legends Never Die"

The Aluminum Falcon · Post by **The Aluminum Falcon** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:12 pm

New album was officially released today

You can listen to the full thing here: http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2013/04/albu ... -never-die

Large Marvin · Post by **Large Marvin** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:30 pm

Really dope on first listen.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:09 pm

Thoughts? Who brought it the most? The beat is some pop tune from last year, right? I can't place it but I heard that loop before.

Rhyme 4 Rhyme · Post by **Rhyme 4 Rhyme** » Wed May 01, 2013 12:00 am

Used to be a pretty big fan of RA but have fallen off over the last few years, basically just due to him not putting out any new music. I haven't read much about this album but I'm definelty gonna check it out.

I was surprised he included Brother Ali on that song with Masta Ace. Heard interviews a while back with him talking about getting the Ace feature and figured he'd just make the song the two of them.

hellriser · Post by **hellriser** » Wed May 01, 2013 12:19 am

dont like at all , beats are poor - i listen only for lyrics but im not gonna spin this album ever again.

it would be better if he put out night of blood apes remastered.

illuminati_guy · Post by **illuminati_guy** » Wed May 01, 2013 5:03 am

i like rugged man but this album got some really horrible beats and hooks i can't fuck with at all, maybe 2 or 3 songs i liked

hellriser · Post by **hellriser** » Wed May 01, 2013 8:21 am

illuminati_guy wrote:i like rugged man but this album got some really horrible beats and hooks i can't fuck with at all, maybe 2 or 3 songs i liked

die rugged man die is better

illuminati_guy · Post by **illuminati_guy** » Wed May 01, 2013 8:50 am

hellriser wrote:
die rugged man die is better

obv

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed May 01, 2013 8:55 am

yeah its like he is trying to expand his base in the worst way on this album.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Wed May 01, 2013 9:48 am

There's a decent EP's worth of material in there. Absolutely no self-imposed quality control though. That "Dangerous Three" song is a wartime atrocity.

Mindbender Futurama · Wed May 01, 2013 11:10 am

I like that song with Talib Kweli a lot

and that verse R.A. spit on the song with Tech N9ne is really

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Wed May 01, 2013 11:45 am

I can agree that the sing songy hooks are a bit odd for R.A. to have on his songs given his stand-out voice and delivery. Media Midgets, Still Get Through The Day, and Make You Famous are solid joints.

Neuro · Post by **Neuro** » Wed May 01, 2013 3:10 pm

i think its a great album for the most part you just have to be in the mood for his rap rapidity raps

i understand the criticisim with the beats, i def like rugged man on rugged beats more, with that said some of these beats do add a cartoony kinda vibe to his cartoony kind of raps

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Wed May 01, 2013 3:44 pm

^^^well, he's always had that feel to his flow. its raw as fuck but yet there's some weird comedic value to it. that's why i can't fault him on the lyrics at all, he's being what he's always been, IMO.

sleazy_j · Post by **sleazy_j** » Wed May 01, 2013 4:23 pm

i see he's fallen into that "i'm white, so i better rap fast" trend.
i can understand Rittz. He can actually spit his fast verses at a live show without a hypeman.
Not sure if Rugged Man can pull that off.

truconfidence · Post by **truconfidence** » Wed May 01, 2013 5:56 pm

I guess I'm in the minority. The 2nd half of this album is an abortion!!! The first half is far superior. Its the most schizophrenic album I think I've heard in awhile cause the 2nd half is completely different than the first. It was almost like intentional sabotage which would make sense cause that's what R.A has done with his whole rap career so you cant say he is being fake.

Stieflkater · Post by **Stieflkater** » Wed May 01, 2013 7:33 pm

Neuro · Post by **Neuro** » Wed May 01, 2013 10:34 pm

sleazy_j wrote:i see he's fallen into that "i'm white, so i better rap fast" trend.
i can understand Rittz. He can actually spit his fast verses at a live show without a hypeman.
Not sure if Rugged Man can pull that off.

no

he has always done this fast shit , for quite some time

Neuro · Post by **Neuro** » Wed May 01, 2013 10:35 pm

Mindbender Futurama · Wed May 01, 2013 11:48 pm

Neuro wrote:
sleazy_j wrote:i see he's fallen into that "i'm white, so i better rap fast" trend.
i can understand Rittz. He can actually spit his fast verses at a live show without a hypeman.
Not sure if Rugged Man can pull that off.
no

he has always done this fast shit , for quite some time

yes true

and he CAN pull it off live. R.A. shows are always fucking awesome hip hop, but he can go "middle of little Italy/ diddley diggity" with the run-on flow a bit too much at times. Still, he's a monster fucking MC that is to be

ed to, cause he certainly is the last of a dying breed

Neuro · Post by **Neuro** » Thu May 02, 2013 12:00 am

people dont realize it but he really has been in the rap game forever and invented the style he uses that many mc's try to do now

Respect.

Brayden · Post by **Brayden** » Thu May 02, 2013 8:47 am

I think this album is pretty dope. It loses a bit of steam towards the end, but the first half is really good. "Definition Of A Rap Flow" is crazy.

Ned Ryerson · Post by **Ned Ryerson** » Thu May 02, 2013 1:31 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Neuro wrote:
sleazy_j wrote:i see he's fallen into that "i'm white, so i better rap fast" trend.
i can understand Rittz. He can actually spit his fast verses at a live show without a hypeman.
Not sure if Rugged Man can pull that off.
no

he has always done this fast shit , for quite some time
yes true

always? got any examples from his old stuff? i don't remember him constantly doing the fast rap thing. from what i recall, it seems like he started doing it more after his last album. around the time he did the song with Jedi Mind about his dad. Granted it's been a while but i don't recall 90s rugged man rapping like this. it's almost as if he feels like he has to do it on every song now

The Aluminum Falcon · Post by **The Aluminum Falcon** » Thu May 02, 2013 1:32 pm

The beat selection on here is questionable, the hooks are downright atrocious, but overall R.A. made a really good account of himself and is still rapping his ass off. That's all I really wanted to hear in a R.A. album anyways. Hopefully he'll go a little lighter on the features next time and figure out how to record songs in less than a decade.

Sylissez · Post by **Sylissez** » Thu May 02, 2013 2:14 pm

Yeah, the fast rap/Das EFX shit is a relatively recent thing for R.A. It's just that he's done it on almost every fucking song since Uncommon Valour, so it just seems like he's been doing it forever. If memory serves, he didn't even do it much (if at all) on Die, Rugged Man, Die.

Ned Ryerson · Post by **Ned Ryerson** » Thu May 02, 2013 3:06 pm

yeah exactly. after uncommon valor and give it up it's like he decided he had to rap like that on every track. which is a shame. it works well occasionally but when he does it on every damn song it feels forced and gimmicky.

the new album could be cut down to be a decent EP but overall i'm not feelin it

also, IMHO Till My Heart Stops is better than anything else he's released

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Thu May 02, 2013 3:09 pm

Ever heard "Stanley Kubrick?"

Not really fast rap.

sleazy_j · Post by **sleazy_j** » Thu May 02, 2013 7:17 pm

i knew i wasn't full of shit about that fast rap thing. he wasn't doing that as dibbs or for smithhaven mall.

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Thu May 02, 2013 8:22 pm

I don't know, like others said, some really good tracks and some really shit ones, I prefer his last album over this one.

Tired & Broke · Post by **Tired & Broke** » Thu May 02, 2013 11:08 pm

Echo Leader wrote:Ever heard "Stanley Kubrick?"

Not really fast rap.

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