Kanye's new album (big surprise) has almost no rappin

samdoom · Post by **samdoom** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:57 pm

http://www.thefader.com/articles/2008/1 ... ning-event

This article says that there's only two or three verses on the album and that he's OD'ing on autotune.

I'm excited to hear the responses

Conscious · Post by **Conscious** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:58 pm

You don't saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. Oh Am I Late?

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:08 pm

sigh. here we go.

what i hope is that an awesome RAP album comes out the same day that we can all focus on instead.

from what i've heard, it's just not that GREAT.

3 or 4 songs have come out and they are all equal to the weakest songs on 'Graduation'.

meh.

mtv news · Post by **mtv news** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:37 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:3 or 4 songs have come out and they are all equal to the weakest songs on 'Graduation'.

meh.

i'd like to know where the other 2 or 3 exist, oh omniscient master of all things hiffhoff.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:38 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote: 3 or 4 songs have come out and they are all equal to the weakest songs on 'Graduation'.

Really? What 3 or 4 songs? I've heard one song and a snippet.

Willie B · Post by **Willie B** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:40 pm

im pretty sure i'll like it.

ric · Post by **ric** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:12 pm

looking forward to it. but feeling suspect about it. if kanye doesnt rap that well....how the fuck is he gonna sing well? andre pulls it off partly because what andres singing sounds good

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:19 pm

ric wrote:looking forward to it. but feeling suspect about it. if kanye doesnt rap that well....how the fuck is he gonna sing well? andre pulls it off partly because what andres singing sounds good

Kanye + autotune >>>>> Andre's singing

Dre is an infinitely better rapper, even if I'm not a fan of his "hokey pokey"-isms

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:32 pm

ric wrote:looking forward to it. but feeling suspect about it. if kanye doesnt rap that well....how the fuck is he gonna sing well? andre pulls it off partly because what andres singing sounds good

Singing is all about pitch and tone, hence the vocoder. Rapping is about rhythm, rhyme, wordplay, etc.

The two have very few skills in common. Lock this thread.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:34 pm

It's suppose to have a few guest spots on it.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:40 pm

Are people actually expecting this to be anything but abysmal?

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:46 pm

Garbage or not it will go platinum and you will have to hear it every time you go drinkin until 2010.

Jihad!!!!

GoldenCrates · Post by **GoldenCrates** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:03 pm

wheels wrote:Garbage or not it will go platinum and you will have to hear it every time you go drinkin until 2010.

Jihad!!!!

hahaha thats the damn truth

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:16 pm

ah, we'll see......

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:29 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Kanye + autotune >>>>> Andre's singing

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:37 pm

Conghey Waste does it again!!!

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:38 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Kanye + autotune >>>>> Andre's singing

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PopsUK · Post by **PopsUK** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:02 pm

If Big L, Big Pun, Biggie and Pac were still here, they would now be a four-piece boy band, singing awesome love songs about having their love locked down, which is obviously not a good thing to have locked down, because it hurts or something.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:14 pm

this album will be terrible. fuck him.

Remo the Great · Post by **Remo the Great** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:49 pm

I suspect I'll enjoy most if not all of this album. Sometimes you gotta move past rappin...

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:09 pm

Remo the Great wrote:I suspect I'll enjoy most if not all of this album. Sometimes you gotta move past rappin...

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:20 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote: 3 or 4 songs have come out and they are all equal to the weakest songs on 'Graduation'.
Really? What 3 or 4 songs? I've heard one song and a snippet.

Heartless, Love Lockdown, a third nameless one I posted a while back but nobody listened to, and... i guess that's it for now.

I swear I've heard one more but just can't remember it. They were YouTube links with shitty quality but they were Kanye performing new songs

I don't

. I'm just ahead of you sometimes.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:23 pm

Remo the Great wrote:I suspect I'll enjoy most if not all of this album. Sometimes you gotta move past rappin...

but he can't sing! That's the point get past rapping if it doesn't take auto tone to do it.

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:42 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
I don't . I'm just ahead of you sometimes.

mtv news · Post by **mtv news** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:54 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote: 3 or 4 songs have come out and they are all equal to the weakest songs on 'Graduation'.
Really? What 3 or 4 songs? I've heard one song and a snippet.
Heartless, Love Lockdown, a third nameless one I posted a while back but nobody listened to, and... i guess that's it for now.

I swear I've heard one more but just can't remember it. They were YouTube links with shitty quality but they were Kanye performing new songs

I don't . I'm just ahead of you sometimes.

mindbender, you ain't gotta lie to kick it, bro.

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:56 pm

burned again

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:41 pm

I know Jeezy, Wayne, and Jay are on the album. I guess Jay took all of Kanye's rap beats for his album. I'm emo as the next kid on this board and fuck you bitch songs are ace, but a whole album of Optimus Prime singing is going OD with it.

multsanta · Post by **multsanta** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:42 am

He's definitely rapping on "Heartless".

ric · Post by **ric** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:34 am

wheels wrote:
ric wrote:looking forward to it. but feeling suspect about it. if kanye doesnt rap that well....how the fuck is he gonna sing well? andre pulls it off partly because what andres singing sounds good
Singing is all about pitch and tone, hence the vocoder. Rapping is about rhythm, rhyme, wordplay, etc.

wow are you full of shit. singing isnt about lyricism? its all about pitch and tone? the fuck is billie holiday then? in her later work, arguably where shes best, her tone is in the shitter because shes so fucked up. good singing is about communication. thats an argument for another time.

what i meant to say in the end there was "partly because what andres singing ABOUT sounds good"

oops thats how its related to lyrics though.

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:08 am

By your logic if someone can rap they should be able to sing. Rap doesn't really require that you stay on key, though it helps. Singing off key can sound fine, but it takes an appropriate genre. This vocoder stuff is R&B at best, probably pop. Most R&B and pop is on key, and has simple lyrics.

I'm not saying singing isn't about lyricism or whatever it was I posted you took offense to. You can sing without lyrics, you can't do the same with rapping really. Being good at one doesn't generally mean shit in terms of the other, and I can only think of lauryn hill as an example of someone who is exceptional at both. Maybe cee lo. ODB for sure.

Still maintain we should lock the 40th love lockdown thread this week, it's raping my eyeballs.