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Kipers latest big board

1. Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU (6-2, 292) | Previous: Same
Disruptive force along the interior. If there is one nonskill position player fans should watch, it's Dorsey. He always makes plays or opens up space for his teammates.

2. *Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas (6-foot-1, 208) | Previous: Same
The reasons for his dynamic performances throughout his career are excellent vision, very good balance, game-breaking speed and a passion for the game.

3. Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College (6-4, 223) | Previous: Same
He has the size and arm to wow the NFL brass during testing.

4. Jake Long, OT, Michigan (6-6, 320) | Previous: 5
Top-drawer left- or right-tackle prospect.

5. Chris Long, DE, Virginia (6-4, 282) | Previous: 4
A 3-4 defensive end with great bloodlines who understands leverage and uses his hands as well as any D-lineman in the country.

6. Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC (6-1, 297) | Previous: Same
Tampa Bay Bucs-style DT with superior quickness and a nonstop motor.

7. *Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio St. (6-3, 262) | Previous: Same
He took his play to a new level in 2007, showcasing the explosiveness to overpower offensive tackles at the point of attack. Gholston also has excellent closing speed, as evidenced by the 14 sacks he registered. He also has the versatility to play with his hand off the ground.

8. *Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State (6-5, 320) | Previous: Same
An excellent left-tackle prospect with athletic ability and solid technique that will make him a great blindside protector in the NFL.

9. *Branden Albert, OG, Virginia (6-6, 310) | Previous: Same
A three-year starter for Al Groh, Albert also has the potential to operate as an offensive tackle in the NFL. Albert really commands attention by blocking in space and getting to the second level. In 2007, I saw Albert routinely deliver crushing blows on the move, showing agility and athleticism rarely seen in a player of his size.

10. *Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois (5-10, 224) | Previous: Same
Authoritative runner with a major league burst through the hole. Mendenhall's hard-charging style makes him difficult to get to the ground.

11. Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt (6-5

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Kiper Top by position

Quarterbacks
1. Matt Ryan, Boston College
2. Joe Flacco, Delaware
3. Brian Brohm, Louisville
4. Chad Henne, Michigan
5. John David Booty, USC

Running Backs
1. Darren McFadden, Arkansas*
2. Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois*
3. Felix Jones, Arkansas*
4. Jonathan Stewart, Oregon*
5. Chris Johnson, East Carolina

Fullbacks
1. Peyton Hillis, Arkansas
2. Jacob Hester, LSU
3. Owen Schmitt, West Virginia
4. Jerome Felton, Furman
5. Mike Cox, Georgia Tech

Wide Receivers
1. Devin Thomas, Michigan State*
2. Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma*
3. DeSean Jackson, California*
4. Limas Sweed, Texas
5. James Hardy, Indiana

Tight Ends
1. Dustin Keller, Purdue
2. John Carlson, Notre Dame
3. Fred Davis, USC
4. Brad Cottam, Tennessee
5. Martellus Bennett, Texas A&M

Offensive Tackles
1. Jake Long, Michigan
2. Ryan Clady, Boise State*
3. Chris Williams, Vanderbilt
4. Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh
5. Duane Brown, Virginia Tech

Offensive Guards
1. Branden Albert, Virginia*
2. Chilo Rachal, USC*
3. Jeremy Zuttah, Rutgers
4. Roy Schuening, Oregon State
5. Drew Radovich, USC

Centers
1. Cody Wallace, Texas A&M
2. Mike Pollak, Arizona St.
3. Steve Justice, Wake Forest
4. Kory Lichtensteiger, Bowling Green
5. John Sullivan, Notre Dame

Defensive Ends
1. Chris Long, Virginia
2. Vernon Gholston, Ohio State*
3. Phillip Merling, Clemson*
4. Derrick Harvey, Florida*
5. Lawrence Jackson, USC

Defensive Tackles
1. Glenn Dorsey, LSU
2. Sedrick Ellis, USC
3. Kentwan Balmer, North Carolina
4. Marcus Harrison, Arkansas
5. Dre Moore, Maryland

Inside Linebackers
1. Jerod Mayo, Tennessee*
2. Dan Connor, Penn State
3. Curtis Lofton, Oklahoma*
4. Jonathan Goff, Vanderbilt
5. Philip Wheeler, Georgia Tech

Outside Linebackers
1. Keith Rivers, USC
2. Tavares Gooden, Miami
3. Geno Hayes, Florida State*
4. Wesley Woodyard, Kentucky
5. Bruce Davis, UCLA

Cornerbacks
1. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tennessee State
2. Aqib Talib, Kansas*
3. Leodis McKelvin, Troy
4. Mike Jenkins, South Florida
5. Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech*

Safeties
1. Tyrell Johnson, Arkansas St.
2. Kenny Phillips, Miami*
3. DaJuan Morgan, NC State*
4. Craig Steltz, LSU
5. Reggie Smith, Oklahoma*

Place-Kickers
1. Brandon Coutu, Georgia
2. Piotr Czech, Wagner
3. Steven Hauschka, NC State
4. Arthur Carmody, Louisville
5. Rob Zarrilli, Hofstra

Punters
1. Mike Dragosavich, North Dakota State
2. Durant Brooks, Georgia Tech
3. Brett Kern, Toledo
4. Benjamin Dato, Fordham
5. Ben Woods, Buffalo

Top 5 Juniors By Position
Quarterbacks
1. Hunter Cantwell, Louisville
2. Curtis Painter, Purdue
3. Todd Boeckman, Ohio State
4. Chase Daniel, Missouri
5. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech

Running Backs
1. Javon Ringer, Michigan State
2. James Davis, Clemson
3. Arian Foster, Tennessee
4. Marlon Lucky, Nebraska
5. Jeremiah Johnson, Oregon

Fullbacks
1. Conredge Collins, Pittsburgh
2. Chris Pressley, Wisconsin
3. Jorvorskie Lane, Texas A&M
4. Brannan Southerland, Georgia
5. Brock Bolen, Louisville

Wide Receivers
1. Brian Robiskie, Ohio State
2. Michael Jones, Arizona State
3. Demetrius Byrd, LSU
4. Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma
5. Patrick White, West Virginia

Tight Ends
1. Travis Beckum, Wisconsin
2. Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State
3. Chase Coffman, Missouri
4. Darius Hill, Ball State
5. Cornelius Ingram, Florida

Offensive Tackles
1. Michael Oher, Mississippi
2. Eugene Monroe, Virginia
3. Alex Boone, Ohio State
4. Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma
5. Dace Richardson, Iowa

Offensive Guards
1. Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
2. Jeremy Perry, Oregon St.
3. Matt Slauson, Nebraska
4. Andy Levitre, Oregon St.
5. Anthony Parker, Tennessee

Centers
1. Alex Mack, California
2. Max Unger, Oregon
3. Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas
4. Antoine Caldwell, Alabama
5. A.Q. Shipley, Penn State

Defensive Ends
1. Tyson Jackson, LSU
2. Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
3. Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin
4. Antwain Robinson, Arkansas
5. Brandon Swain, West Texas A&M

Defensive Tackles
1. Fili Moala, USC
2. Peria Jerry, Mississippi
3. Terrance Taylor, Michigan
4. Jeff Owens, Georgia
5. Vance Walker, Georgia Tech

Inside Linebackers
1. James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
2. Rey Maualuga, USC
3. Darry Beckwith, LSU
4. Worrell Williams, California
5. Antonio Appleby, Virginia

Outside Linebackers
1. Brian Cushing, USC
2. Sean Lee, Penn State
3. Marcus Freeman, Ohio State
4. Clint Sintim, Virginia
5. Dave Philistin, Maryland

Cornerbacks
1. Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
2. Victor Harris, Virginia Tech
3. Kevin Barnes, Maryland
4. Joe Burnett, Central Florida
5. Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest

Safeties
1. William Moore, Missouri
2. Nic Harris, Oklahoma
3. Kevin Ellison, USC
4. Patrick Chung, Oregon
5. Michael Hamlin, Clemson

Place-Kickers
1. Sam Swank, Wake Forest
2. Louie Sakoda, Utah
3. Austin Starr, Indiana
4. Conor Lee, Pittsburgh
5. Dan Kelly, Hawaii

Punters
1. Chris Miller, Ball State
2. Britton Colquitt, Tennessee
3. Kevin Huber, Cincinnati
4. A.J. Trapasso, Ohio State
5. Aaron Perez, UCLA

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Latest Draft Buzz by McShay


Ravens would be making a mistake by not pursuing Ryan

The retirement of QB Steve McNair doesn't change the draft needs of the Baltimore Ravens, but it does add some urgency to the draft process. Baltimore was already planning on using an early-round pick on a quarterback, but the McNair news catapults that need ahead of other positions such as cornerback and offensive tackle.

Here are a few of the Ravens' potential options on Day 1:

1. Stay at No. 8 and hope that Boston College QB Matt Ryan falls that far.
2. Trade into the top five to assure themselves of getting Ryan.
3. Use the eighth pick to address a different position, then package picks to move from No. 38 overall into the late first round and secure a second-tier quarterback like Delaware's Joe Flacco, Louisville's Brian Brohm or Michigan's Chad Henne.
4. Stay put at No. 38 and take the best available quarterback on the board.

Less likely than any of the above scenarios is moving back from No. 8 if Ryan is off the board, collecting an extra pick or two and selecting the second-tier quarterback they covet the most, rumored to be Flacco. While that sounds nice in theory, Baltimore can't count on finding a trade partner willing to pay what it takes to move into the top 10.

As I mentioned on ESPN Radio, the situation is muddied even further by the possibility that the Atlanta Falcons, who already own the No. 3 overall pick, could trade back into the top seven in order to snatch up Ryan before the Ravens have a chance. The Falcons have three second-round picks (34, 37 and 38) and could package those picks in exchange for the No. 7 overall selection, a spot the New England Patriots would like to get out of.

Atlanta has an advantage where this potential trade is concerned because Falcons general manager Tom Dimitroff worked for the Patriots the last six seasons and obviously has a relationship with Pats coach Bill Belichick and general manager Scott Pioli. Dimitroff would do well to take a defensive player such as DT Glenn Dorsey or DE Chris Long, then package those second-rounders in order to get Ryan and end up spending four picks to get two of the elite players in the draft.

It doesn't help, either, that the Ravens have only nine picks in the upcoming draft and four of them are untradeable compensatory picks.

While there's obviously no guarantee that Ryan is the answer to the Ravens' problems, he is a significantly better prospect than any other signal-caller in this year's class. In fact, current Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger is the only quarterback in the last five drafts who I gave a higher grade than Ryan. If Baltimore shares a similar opinion it would definitely consider the option of moving up, no matter how costly.

Using the NFL Draft Value Chart as a jumping-off point, it would cost the Ravens 1,200 points to make a deal with the Rams for the second overall selection, a spot that would, all but assure them of getting Ryan. That's the equivalent of the 12th overall pick, so the Ravens would probably need to offer up this year's second-round pick and next year's first-rounder. However, as much as I believe in Ryan, such a deal is too rich -- both financially and in terms of picks -- for even my blood.

If Ryan gets past Atlanta at No. 3, it would only cost the Ravens 300 points (equivalent to a late-second) to move up to pick No. 5 in a deal with the Chiefs. In comparison, it would cost the Ravens 280 points to trade up from No. 38 to, say, No. 21 to secure their next-best quarterback option. So if there's practically no difference in the trade value in these two scenarios, why not move in order to get the consensus top quarterback prospect? Sure, it would cost more to sign Ryan, but isn't it worth the investment?

It was five years ago that the team traded back into the late first round for a second-tier quarterback prospect in Kyle Boller, and his failure to develop is the reason the Ravens are in this mess today. It would be ignorant to believe the scenarios will be as cut-and-dry as they are laid out above, but should the opportunity present itself it would be wise for the Ravens to avoid a similar scenario this time around and make an aggressive move to land Ryan.

Jared Allen trade fallout
If a Jared Allen deal goes down as has been reported by my ESPN colleagues, the Minnesota Vikings would be huge winners.

The Vikings' biggest need is at defensive end, but Chris Long and Vernon Gholston would be long gone by the time the Vikings select at No. 17, and it's highly unlikely Derrick Harvey will be around either. In trading for Allen, though, Minnesota would get a known commodity and one of the league's best pass rushers, who would be an ideal fit in defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier's speed-oriented Cover 2 scheme.

Sure, Allen comes with some off-the-field baggage, but trading for him is less of a risk than standing pat at No. 17 and hoping for Harvey, who has very good tools, but is inconsistent and unproven.

On the flip side, the Chiefs would be left in no man's land with their own No. 5 selection and Minnesota's No. 17. Their biggest needs at that point would be offensive tackle and defensive end, followed by cornerback, but OT Jake Long would be gone before the Chiefs pick and the next-best linemen -- Ryan Clady and Branden Albert -- would both be reaches at that point.

Gholston is a possibility with the fifth pick, but that will also be a reach for a player who disappears from games far too often. And it's certainly too high for Harvey, who is rumored to be their target, but would likely be off the board at No. 17. The team should land one of the top four corners -- Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie or Aqib Talib -- with the 17th pick, but second-tier tackles Jeff Otah and Chris Williams will likely also be gone and there likely won't be a defensive end on the board worth the selection.

Essentially, the Chiefs will get younger, rid themselves of Allen whose sure to get a monster contract after his franchise tender expires, while finding good value at No. 17. They will reach for a defensive end or offensive tackle at No. 5, but then be left with a gaping hole at the other spot.

The mess at wide receiver
Michigan State's Devin Thomas has seen his stock soar lately, and while there is no denying his physical skills he has risen to the top of the wide receiver class in part because of the pre-draft struggles of other big-name wideouts.

Malcolm Kelly has dealt with a quad injury and questions about past knee problems, and he also had a poor on-campus workout in which he complained about the setup of the workout as well as the Oklahoma training staff. Limas Sweed has struggled to overcome a wrist injury that has nagged him since before the college season. DeSean Jackson weighed in at 169 pounds at the combine and questions have come up about his work ethic, while Mario Manningham and Adarius Bowman have had issues with lying about failed drug tests and marijuana possession, respectively.

Thomas, of course, has been the beneficiary and I now have him going 11th overall to Buffalo in my latest mock draft.

Stewart rising again
Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart saw his stock drop somewhat after undergoing turf toe surgery in mid-March, but he rebounded quickly. Two NFL teams told me this week that he is potentially a top-20 pick at this point.

I still think Rashard Mendenhall will be second back taken after Darren McFadden, but Stewart might not be far behind. Teams in the middle of the first round with at least some interest in a running back include Denver (12), Carolina (13), Chicago (14), Detroit (15), Arizona (16), Houston (18) and Dallas (23).

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Really hoping the fins take Jake Long.

[Gregg Popabitch1]

awesome, i was going to post a draft thread tommarow but you went above and beyond. good shit.

even if you guys don't draft jake long and go with chris long instead, this draft is deep at offensive tackle.

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awesome, i was going to post a draft thread tommarow but you went above and beyond. good shit.

even if you guys don't draft jake long and go with chris long instead, this draft is deep at offensive tackle.

I agree. Gholston tends to take plays off at times while Long is just relentless and a very smooth athlete.

[Gregg Popabitch1]

awesome, i was going to post a draft thread tommarow but you went above and beyond. good shit.

even if you guys don't draft jake long and go with chris long instead, this draft is deep at offensive tackle.

I agree. Gholston tends to take plays off at times while Long is just relentless and a very smooth athlete.

word. chris doesn't have the timed speed that gholston does but i have a hard time seeing Long becoming a bust. either long are bust proof imo.

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Scout.com top 50
Pos Overall
Rank Rating Name Yr Ht/Wt/40 College Home
RB 1 Darren McFadden JR 6-2/210/4.45 Arkansas
DT 2 Glenn Dorsey SR 6-1.5/313/- LSU
DE 3 Chris Long SR 6-3.5/278/4.75 Virginia
QB 4 Matt Ryan SR 6-5/224/4.90 Boston College
CB 5 Mike Jenkins SR 5-11/200/4.45 South Florida MLB 6 Keith Rivers SR 6-3/237/4.60 USC
DT 7 Sedrick Ellis SR 6-1/307/4.95 USC
OT 8 Jake Long SR 6-7/335/- Michigan
OLB 9 Dan Connor SR 6-3/230/- Penn State
OT 10 Chris Williams SR 6-6/317/5.30 Vanderbilt
OT 11 Jeff Otah SR 6-6.5/341/- Pittsburgh
DE 12 Derrick Harvey JR 6-4/260/4.75 Florida
CB 13 Leodis McKelvin SR 5-10.5/186/4.48 Troy
DE 14 Vernon Gholston JR 6-3/260/4.75 Ohio State
RB 15 Rashard Mendenhall JR 5-10.5/215/4.55 Illinois
WR 16 Devin Thomas JR 6-2/215/4.50 Michigan State
WR 17 Malcolm Kelly JR 6-4/215/4.50 Oklahoma
CB 18 Aqib Talib JR 6-1/195/4.50 Kansas
DE 19 Quentin Groves SR 6-3/252/4.43 Auburn
TE 20 Fred Davis SR 6-3.5/251/4.75 USC
RB 21 Chris Johnson SR 5-10/201/4.29 East Carolina
MLB 22 Jerod Mayo JR 6-2/235/4.65 Tennessee
OG 23 Branden Albert JR 6-6.5/320/- Virginia
S 24 Kenny Phillips JR 6-2/210/4.50 Miami (FL)
OT 25 Ryan Clady JR 6-6/320/- Boise State
RB 26 Jamaal Charles JR 6-1/205/4.45 Texas Port
DE 27 Phillip Merling JR 6-5/270/4.80 Clemson
RB 28 Jonathan Stewart JR 5-11/230/- Oregon
OLB 29 Tavares Gooden SR 6-2/235/4.55 Miami (FL)
WR 30 Mario Manningham JR 6-0/187/- Michigan
RB 31 Felix Jones JR 6-0/207/- Arkansas
CB 32 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie SR6-1.5/183/4.47 Tennessee State
TE 33 Martellus Bennett JR 6-6/250/4.75 Texas A&M
OLB 34 Curtis Lofton JR 6-0/235/- Oklahoma
DE 35 Calais Campbell JR 6-7/280/4.75 Miami (FL)
QB 36 Joe Flacco SR 6-6/237/5.00 Delaware
DT 37 Kentwan Balmer SR 6-4/295/5.15 North Carolina
TE 38 Dustin Keller SR 6-2/251/4.70 Purdue
WR 39 Andre Caldwell SR 6-0/203/4.55 Florida
DE 40 Chris Ellis SR 6-4/257/4.70 Virginia Tech
OT 41 Sam Baker SR 6-5/314/5.10 USC T
WR 42 Early Doucet SR 6-0/213/4.53 LSU Saint
OG 43 Chilo Rachal JR 6-4.5/315/5.25 USC
OT 44 Carl Nicks SR 6-5/335/5.30 Nebraska
OG 45 Oniel Cousins SR 6-4/302/5.04 UTEP
CB 46 Tyvon Branch SR 5-11.5/194/4.45 Connecticut
DT 47 Marcus Harrison SR 6-2.5/310/5.20 Arkansas
OG 48 John Greco SR 6-5/326/5.26 Toledo
OLB 49 Geno Hayes JR 6-1.5/225/4.70 Florida State
QB 50 Brian Brohm SR 6-3/227/4.82 Louisville Louisville, KY

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Rivals.com top 100

Rank School Ht/Wt Hometown College Video HS Video
1 Matt Ryan Boston College 6-5/215 Exton, PA video
2 Chris Long Virginia 6-4/280 Ivy, VA video video
3 Glenn Dorsey LSU 6-2/300 Gonzales, LA video video
4 Jake Long Michigan 6-7/313 Lapeer, MI video
5 Vernon Gholston Ohio State 6-4/264 Detroit, MI video video
6 Sedrick Ellis Southern Cal 6-1/305 Chino, CA video
7 Leodis McKelvin Troy 5-11/190 Waycross, GA video
8 Keith Rivers Southern Cal 6-3/225 Lake Mary, FL video video
9 Darren McFadden Arkansas 6-2/215 Little Rock, AR video video
10 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Tennessee St. 6-2/183 Bradenton, FL
11 Ryan Clady Boise State 6-6/319 Rialto, CA video
12 Rashard Mendenhall Illinois 5-11/210 Skokie, IL video video
13 Branden Albert Virginia 6-7/310 Glen Burnie, MD
14 Derrick Harvey Florida 6-4/260 Greenbelt, MD video video
15 Chris Williams Vanderbilt 6-6/320 Glynn, LA
16 Mike Jenkins South Florida 5-11/194 Bradenton, FL video
17 Limas Sweed Texas 6-5/215 Washington, TX
18 Brian Brohm Louisville 6-4/224 Louisville, KY video video
19 Antoine Cason Arizona 6-0/185 Los Alamitos, CA video
20 Calais Campbell Miami-FL 6-8/280 Denver, CO video
21 Jeff Otah Pittsburgh 6-6/340 New Castle, DE video
22 Quentin Groves Auburn 6-3/254 Greenville, MS video
23 Kenny Phillips Miami-FL 6-2/210 Miami, FL video video
24 Phillip Merling Clemson 6-5/275 Memphis, TN
25 Kentwan Balmer North Carolina 6-5/295 Weldon, NC video
26 Jonathan Stewart Oregon 5-11/234 Lacey, WA video video
27 Gosder Cherilus Boston College 6-7/320 Somerville, MA video
28 Curtis Lofton Oklahoma 6-0/235 Kingfisher, OK video video
29 Felix Jones Arkansas 6-0/207 Tulsa, OK video
30 Jerod Mayo Tennessee 6-2/230 Hampton, VA
31 DaJuan Morgan NC State 6-1/206 Riviera Beach, FL video
32 Devin Thomas Michigan State 6-2/214 Ann Arbor, MI video video
33 Brandon Flowers Virginia Tech 5-10/186 Delray Beach, FL video video
34 DeSean Jackson California 6-0/172 Long Beach, CA video video
35 Chad Henne Michigan 6-2/224 Wyomissing, PA video video
36 James Hardy Indiana 6-7/220 Fort Wayne, IN video video
37 Dan Connor Penn State 6-3/233 Wallingford, PA video video
38 Early Doucet LSU 6-1/210 St. Martinville, LA video video
39 Aqib Talib Kansas 6-2/195 Richardson, TX video
40 Erin Henderson Maryland 6-4/225 Aberdeen, MD video
41 John Carlson Notre Dame 6-6/255 Litchfield, MN
42 Mario Manningham Michigan 6-0/186 Warren, OH video video
43 Justin King Penn State 6-0/186 Monroeville, PA video
44 Malcolm Kelly Oklahoma 6-4/217 Longview, TX video video
45 Chris Johnson East Carolina 5-11/195 Orlando, FL video
46 Sam Baker Southern Cal 6-5/315 Tustin, CA video
47 Joe Flacco Delaware 6-6/230 Audubon, NJ
48 Reggie Smith Oklahoma 6-1/197 Edmond, OK video video
49 Dustin Keller Purdue 6-4/240 Lafayette, IN video
50 Pat Lee Auburn 6-0/201 Miami, FL video
51 Marcus Harrison Arkansas 6-3/307 Little Rock, AR video
52 Lawrence Jackson Southern Cal 6-5/270 Inglewood, CA video
53 Trevor Laws Notre Dame 6-1/296 Burnsville, MN
54 Xavier Adibi Virginia Tech 6-2/224 Hampton, VA video
55 Ray Rice Rutgers 5-9/195 New Rochelle, NY
56 Martellus Bennett Texas A&M 6-7/255 Alief, TX video
57 Tracy Porter Indiana 5-11/185 Port Allen, LA video
58 Kevin Smith UCF 6-1/210 Miami, FL video
59 Andre' Woodson Kentucky 6-5/230 Radcliff, KY video
60 Cliff Avril Purdue 6-3/247 Green Cove Springs, FL
61 Eddie Royal Virginia Tech 5-10/174 Herndon, VA
62 Pat Sims Auburn 6-4/316 Fort Lauderdale, FL video
63 Tyvon Branch Connecticut 6-0/193 Cicero, NY
64 Jamaal Charles Texas 6-1/190 Port Arthur, TX video video
65 Andre Caldwell Florida 6-1/200 Tampa, FL
66 Matt Forte Tulane 6-1/210 Slidell, LA video
67 Steve Slaton West Virginia 5-10/195 Levittown, PA video video
68 John Greco Toledo 6-5/315 Youngstown, OH
69 Charles Godfrey Iowa 6-1/208 Baytown, TX
70 Earl Bennett Vanderbilt 6-1/202 Birmingham, AL video
71 Fred Davis Southern Cal 6-4/245 Toledo, OH video video
72 Anthony Collins Kansas 6-5/320 Beaumont, TX video
73 Jason Jones Eastern Michigan 6-5/247 Southfield, MI
74 Quintin Demps Texas-El Paso 6-1/215 San Antonio, TX video
75 Keenan Burton Kentucky 6-2/195 Louisville, KY
76 Tyrell Johnson Arkansas St. 6-0/184 Rison, AR
77 Dre Moore Maryland 6-4/283 Charlotte, NC
78 Tony Hills Texas 6-6/295 Houston, TX
79 Chris Ellis Virginia Tech 6-4/255 Hampton, VA
80 Donnie Avery Houston 5-11/190 Houston, TX video
81 Philip Wheeler Georgia Tech 6-2/215 Columbus, GA
82 Terrell Thomas Southern Cal 6-2/195 Alta Loma, CA video
83 Wesley Woodyard Kentucky 6-1/212 LaGrange, GA
84 Red Bryant Texas A&M 6-5/322 Jasper, TX
85 Brad Cottam Tennessee 6-8/263 Memphis, TN
86 Carl Nicks Nebraska 6-5/330 Salinas, CA video
87 DeMario Pressley NC State 6-3/295 Greensboro, NC video
88 Shawn Crable Michigan 6-5/245 Massillon, OH video
89 Will Franklin Missouri 6-2/205 St. Louis, MO video
90 Letroy Guion Florida State 6-4/295 Starke, FL
91 Darrell Robertson Georgia Tech 6-5/240 Jonesboro, GA
92 Beau Bell UNLV 6-3/210 Tustin, CA video
93 Jack Williams Kent 5-9/176 Norfolk, VA
94 Geno Hayes Florida State 6-2/218 Greenville, FL video
95 Tavares Gooden Miami-FL 6-2/238 Fort Lauderdale, FL
96 Terrence Wheatley Colorado 5-10/170 Richardson, TX
97 Josh Barrett Arizona State 6-3/231 Reno, NV
98 Jermichael Finley Texas 6-5/220 Diboll, TX video
99 Thomas DeCoud California 6-3/204 Pinole, CA video
100 Jordon Dizon Colorado 6-0/225 Waimea, HI

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And heres the pick sequence

2008 NFL Draft Sequence

Sequence as of March 17th, 2008

The order does not include Compensatory Selections, which will be awarded to clubs at the bottom of Rounds 3-7.

ROUND ONE

1- 1- 1 Miami
1- 2- 2 St. Louis
1- 3- 3 Atlanta
1- 4- 4 Oakland
1- 5- 5 Kansas City
1- 6- 6 New York Jets
1- 7- 7 New England from San Francisco
1- 8- 8 Baltimore
1- 9- 9 Cincinnati
1-10-10 New Orleans
1-11-11 Buffalo
1-12-12 Denver
1-13-13 Carolina
1-14-14 Chicago
1-15-15 Detroit
1-16-16 Arizona
1-17-17 Minnesota
1-18-18 Houston
1-19-19 Philadelphia
1-20-20 Tampa Bay
1-21-21 Washington
1-22-22 Dallas from Cleveland
1-23-23 Pittsburgh
1-24-24 Tennessee
1-25-25 Seattle
1-26-26 Jacksonville
1-27-27 San Diego
1-28-28 Dallas
1-29-29 San Francisco from Indianapolis
1-30-30 Green Bay
1-31- New England Forfeited
1-32-31 New York Giants

ROUND TWO

2- 1-32 Miami
2- 2-33 St. Louis
2- 3-34 Oakland
2- 4-35 Kansas City
2- 5-36 New York Jets
2- 6-37 Atlanta
2- 7-38 Baltimore
2- 8-39 San Francisco
2- 9-40 New Orleans
2-10-41 Buffalo
2-11-42 Denver
2-12-43 Carolina
2-13-44 Chicago
2-14-45 Detroit
2-15-46 Cincinnati
2-16-47 Minnesota
2-17-48 Atlanta from Houston
2-18-49 Philadelphia
2-19-50 Arizona
2-20-51 Washington
2-21-52 Tampa Bay
2-22-53 Pittsburgh
2-23-54 Tennessee
2-24-55 Seattle
2-25-56 Cleveland
2-26-57 Miami from San Diego
2-27-58 Jacksonville
2-28-59 Indianapolis
2-29-60 Green Bay
2-30-61 Dallas
2-31-62 New England
2-32-63 New York Giants

ROUND THREE

3- 1-64 Miami
3- 2-65 St. Louis
3- 3-66 Kansas City
3- 4-67 New York Jets
3- 5-68 Atlanta
3- 6-69 New England from Oakland
3- 7-70 San Francisco
3- 8-71 Buffalo from Baltimore
3- 9-72 Buffalo
3-10-73 Minnesota from Denver
3-11-74 Carolina
3-12-75 Chicago
3-13-76 Detroit
3-14-77 Cincinnati
3-15-78 New Orleans
3-16-79 Houston
3-17-80 Philadelphia
3-18-81 Arizona
3-19-82 Minnesota
3-20-83 Tampa Bay
3-21-84 Washington
3-22-85 Tennessee
3-23-86 Seattle
3-24-87 Cleveland
3-25-88 Pittsburgh
3-26-89 Jacksonville
3-27-90 Chicago from San Diego
3-28-91 Green Bay
3-29-92 Dallas
3-30-93 Indianapolis
3-31-94 New England
3-32-95 New York Giants

ROUND FOUR

4- 1- Miami
4- 2- St. Louis
4- 3- New York Jets
4- 4- Atlanta
4- 5- Oakland
4- 6- Kansas City
4- 7- Baltimore
4- 8- San Francisco
4- 9- Denver
4-10- Carolina
4-11- Chicago
4-12- Detroit
4-13- Cincinnati
4-14- New Orleans
4-15- Buffalo
4-16- Philadelphia
4-17- Arizona
4-18- Minnesota
4-19- Houston
4-20- Denver from Washington
4-21- Tampa Bay
4-22- Seattle
4-23- Cleveland
4-24- Pittsburgh
4-25- Tennessee
4-26- San Diego Exercised in Supplemental Draft
4-27- Jacksonville
4-28- Dallas
4-29- Indianapolis
4-30- Green Bay
4-31- New England
4-32- New York Giants

ROUND FIVE

5- 1- Kansas City from Miami
5- 2- St. Louis
5- 3- Atlanta
5- 4- Denver from Oakland
5- 5- Kansas City
5- 6- New York Jets
5- 7- San Francisco
5- 8- Baltimore Exercised in Supplemental Draft
5- 9- Chicago from Carolina
5-10- Buffalo from Chicago
5-11- Detroit
5-12- Cincinnati
5-13- New Orleans
5-14- Buffalo
5-15- Denver
5-16- Arizona
5-17- Minnesota
5-18- Houston
5-19- Philadelphia
5-20- Tampa Bay
5-21- Washington
5-22- Cleveland
5-23- Pittsburgh
5-24- Tennessee
5-25- Jacksonville from Seattle
5-26- Jacksonville
5-27- San Diego
5-28- Indianapolis
5-29- Green Bay
5-30- Dallas
5-31- New England
5-32- New York Giants

ROUND SIX

6- 1- Miami
6- 2- St. Louis
6- 3- Oakland
6- 4- Kansas City
6- 5- New York Jets
6- 6- Atlanta
6- 7- Baltimore
6- 8- San Francisco
6- 9- Chicago
6-10- Detroit
6-11- Cincinnati
6-12- New Orleans
6-13- Buffalo
6-14- St. Louis from Denver
6-15- Carolina
6-16- Minnesota
6-17- Houston
6-18- Philadelphia
6-19- Arizona
6-20- Washington
6-21- Kansas City from Tampa Bay
6-22- Pittsburgh
6-23- Seattle from Tennessee
6-24- Cleveland from Seattle
6-25- Philadelphia from Cleveland
6-26- San Diego
6-27- Jacksonville
6-28- New York Giants from Green Bay
6-29- Dallas
6-30- Indianapolis
6-31- New England
6-32- New York Giants

ROUND SEVEN

7- 1- Miami
7- 2- Minnesota from St. Louis
7- 3- Kansas City
7- 4- New York Jets
7- 5- Atlanta
7- 6- Oakland
7- 7- San Francisco
7- 8- Baltimore
7- 9- Detroit
7-10- St. Louis from Cincinnati
7-11- New Orleans
7-12- Buffalo
7-13- Denver
7-14- Carolina
7-15- Chicago
7-16- Houston
7-17- Buffalo from Philadelphia
7-18- Arizona
7-19- Oakland from Minnesota through New York Jets
7-20- Denver from Tampa Bay
7-21- Washington
7-22- Tennessee
7-23- Philadelphia from Seattle
7-24- Cleveland
7-25- Atlanta from Pittsburgh
7-26- Seattle from Jacksonville
7-27- San Diego
7-28- Dallas
7-29- Indianapolis
7-30- Green Bay
7-31- New England
7-32- Kansas City from New York Giants

[djm13]

Rivals.com top 100

Rank School Ht/Wt Hometown College Video HS Video
1 Matt Ryan Boston College 6-5/215 Exton, PA video

[Prophecy]

Rivals.com top 100

Rank School Ht/Wt Hometown College Video HS Video
1 Matt Ryan Boston College 6-5/215 Exton, PA video

Yeah it's

[still illiterate]

Ryan makes some real solid passes, can't deny that. Good vision and decently strong arm. Better prospect then Leinart and Smith. But I'm not sold on the kid, and I certainly wouldn't put him at the top of the draft class.

[capable_keL]

HI FAGS: HERE IS MY MOCK THRU 17, WHY STOP AT 17? BECAUSE I AM A HOMER AND ALL OF YOU ARE FUCKING GHAY



1)MIA-Jake Long(OT) This could change and the Big Tuna may very well go for Gholston, but this would be the smarter pick.

2)ST. LOUIS-G.Dorsey(DT) The pick should be either Dorsey, C.Long, or Gholston, and they take the best player in this years draft. Mark it down folks, Dorsey will be a superstar!

3)ATL-M.Ryan(QB)...If Dorsey drops he will be the pick in less than 2 seconds. I wouldn't doubt if Atlanta moves up for Dorsey.

4)OAK-C.Long(DE) They take the surest DE in the draft and immediately becomes a hit with Oakland fans. Will he wear his dads number is the question?

5)K.C.-B.Albert(OG/OT) The Chiefs are really screwed. Do they reach for Albert or Clady here? Will the Vikes sign Allen to a contract after the draft? They wanted J.Long or C.Long and now have to decide between an O.Lineman or Gholston? They go for the O.Line which is in shambles.S.Ellis could also be the pick.

6)NY JETS-McFadden(RB) This is one of the easier picks. It comes down to McFadden and Gholston and Mcfadden is higher on their board.

7)CIN.BENGALS(trade w/Pats)-S.Ellis(DT) The Pats were going to select S.Ellis but the Bengals offer their 3rd rounder top move up.from #9. The Bengals are thrilled to land this future star.

8)BALTIMORE-R.Clady(OT) If Ryan drops this is a no-brainer. The Ravens have to decide between Gholston and Clady. This is a tough choice.

9)NE PATS(trade w/Bengals)-Gholston(DE/LB) Gholston is rated very high on some draft boards and low on others. He could be a star and could be a huge bust, but the Pats like him so he is the choice. A team that is high on Gholston is the Dolphins and he could go as high as #1.

10)NEW ORL.-K.Rivers(LB) The Saints are thrilled that Rivers drops and can hardly contain themselves.

11)BUFFALO-L.McKelvin(CB) This could be a trade down spot and Buffalo needs a WR(D.Thomas) so watch out for this. They can't pass on the best CB in the draft.

12)DENVER-Mendenhall(RB) Here's a shocker. We all know that Denver needs an offensive lineman and Williams and Otah are also possibilities, but Shanahan goes for the guy they have rated the highest.

13)CAR-Derrick Harvey(DE) They could go for Williams or Otah, but pick the best guy on their draft board. This makes the Vikes decision to pursue Allen easier.

14)CHI-J.Otah(OT) It could be Otah or Williams. I'll go with Otah

15)DET-J.Mayo(LB) This could also be Stewart, but Mayo is flying up the boards and the Lions need a LB in the worst way.

16)ARIZ-DRC(CB) This will be a corner, you can pretty much write it down.Will it be Jenkins or Cromartie? I'll go with Cromartie.

17)THE VIKES!!!!! C.Williams(OT) I see the Vikes picking Harvey, Otah, or Williams with #17. If all three are gone they could select the next best CB or trade down.

18) and below....WHO CARES

[blastmaster]

MATT FORTE
MATT FORTE
MATT FORTE.

[Orale Holmes]

Im confused at Leodis McKelvin being the #2 CB on some of these rating listings...he's the best CB on the board.

[Prophecy]

Im confused at Leodis McKelvin being the #2 CB on some of these rating listings...he's the best CB on the board.

Agree to disagree

[Prophecy]

MATT FORTE
MATT FORTE
MATT FORTE.

My turn

MIKE JENKINS
MIKE JENKINS
MIKE JENKINS

[Prophecy]

More Draft buzz from Mcshay

QBs Ryan, Henne the subject of much speculation



Falcons leaning toward Ryan
The more sources we talk to, the more we hear that the Atlanta Falcons are leaning toward taking QB Matt Ryan with the No. 3 overall pick. The Falcons had two visits with DT Glenn Dorsey in the past 10 days -- one on the LSU campus, the other in Atlanta -- and they think he is a perfect fit for what they would like to do defensively, but general manager Tom Dimitroff is apparently considering how his former employers, the New England Patriots, built their team in a somewhat unorthodox manner.

Most teams like to build from the inside out, first improving on both sides of the line of scrimmage then moving to the skill positions, but the Patriots got lucky with Tom Brady in the sixth round in 1999 and put their own spin on that system. So why not take Ryan at No. 3 if Atlanta is convinced he has the intangibles to become a Brady-like leader and passer? The chatter in recent weeks has had the Falcons taking Ryan only if Dorsey is off the board, but it is looking more and more like Ryan could be their guy. And make no mistake about it, this is a Dimitroff decision. Owner Arthur Blank is sticking to his word that he will offer only opinions and allow Dimitroff to make all the football decisions.

Jets high on Ryan, too
Call it a smoke screen or simply a leak from the draft room, but word is the New York Jets would seriously consider taking Ryan if he should fall to their spot at No. 6 overall. We've talked to three league sources who are convinced New York would snatch Ryan up at that spot even though they drafted Kellen Clemens just two years ago. That's good news for the Kansas City Chiefs at No. 5, who have seen the Jets and Patriots (No. 7) get plenty of interest in their picks from teams looking to trade up but might now hear from teams wanting to get ahead of New York in order to select Ryan.

We're also hearing that Carolina is in love with Ryan as well and is maybe the team most likely to trade into the top seven to get him.

Henne creating first-round buzz
Chad Henne continues to be the hot name as the likely second quarterback off the board. Many scouts are in love with either Brian Brohm (consistent, accurate and steady) or Joe Flacco (great size and arm strength, deceptive mobility) as that second guy, but there is widespread buzz that a mystery team picking somewhere in the teens is in love with Henne and is in a dilemma over how to get him.

No one seems to know which team it is -- perhaps Carolina (No. 13), Chicago (No. 14) or even Minnesota (No. 17). But the general feeling is that the team knows it would be reaching to take him that high in the first round and would like to trade back a bit in order to get better value with Henne and also pick up an extra pick in a later round. That would obviously be the first priority, as the options of trading up into the top of the second round or simply staying put and hoping Henne is available in the middle of the second round are not nearly as attractive.

Should Henne come off the board that early, there would then be added urgency late in the first round and early in the second for those teams looking to fill a need at quarterback. That would mean some combination of Miami, Atlanta, Baltimore, Carolina, Chicago and maybe Minnesota all fighting for the right to draft Brohm or Flacco. Stay tuned because we're digging to bring you the name of that mystery team.

Saints looking to move up
After talking to a person familiar with the New Orleans Saints' draft-planning, it is clear they are actively seeking a reasonable deal to move into the top five. The St. Louis Rams at No. 2 are the primary target as the Saints would like to get Dorsey, and the secondary options include trading up to No. 4 (Oakland), No. 5 (Kansas City) or No. 7 (New England) to get second-rated DT Sedrick Ellis.

If they can't get a deal done, the Saints could stay home at No. 10 and hope OLB Keith Rivers falls to them, trade back and get one of the top cornerbacks later in the first round, or stay at 10 and select the top corner on their board -- we're hearing Mike Jenkins -- if Rivers is not available at that point.

RB Stewart headed to Denver?
Following up on a note from last week, RB Jonathan Stewart continues to be a hot topic in scouting circles as he moves back up the board following turf toe surgery in March. Stewart's surgery combined with several nagging injuries during his college career sent his stock sliding, but now that he has healed and tested for teams again it is clear most are comfortable that his toe is not an issue.

Denver (No. 12) and Carolina seem to have the most interest among teams in the top 20, and we're told the chances are good that the Broncos will take Stewart if their favorite offensive tackle prospect -- Chris Williams -- is off the board. Denver has always felt it could find running backs in the later rounds and turn them into 1,000-yard rushers in its zone-blocking system, but that philosophy has not worked out in recent years and the Broncos obviously think Stewart would be a nice fit in their offense.

[Gregg Popabitch1]

Im confused at Leodis McKelvin being the #2 CB on some of these rating listings...he's the best CB on the board.

Agree to disagree

i know right.

aqib talib mufuckas

[still illiterate]

I don't understand why people think that Denver is going to take a RB in the first. they've had success with whoever they put back there, from whatever round....except clarett.

[Trub320]

Dolphins are taking Jake Long

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/n ... id=3358424

[capable_keL]

I'm wondering if anyone knows why I hear none of the experts talking at all about andrea caldwell?....It realy seems baffling?is there some sort of off field issue's?...I mean the guy ran a 40 just as fast as desean jackson(4.37) he had one of the top verticle's...was pretty much top in every cat. at the combine...he's 6'1 210 pounds and the brother of reche caldwell so you know he's had the advantage of working out for a while with pro's...he went to florida and left the all time leading receiver?....I keep looking for something that indicates he shouldnt be a steal in round 1...the scouting report I read(before every site started wanting money) said he catches with his hands and makes circus catches....?anyone no something I should?

[Orale Holmes]

I don't understand why people think that Denver is going to take a RB in the first. they've had success with whoever they put back there, from whatever round....except clarett.

Shannahan only jerks off to RBs...he's tired of all the old one's.

[Gregg Popabitch1]

Dolphins are taking Jake Long

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/n ... id=3358424

i still would've taken a defensive end but i can't get mad at this pick. franchise left tackles are hard to find and offensive linemen picked in the top 5 bust less frequently then other positions. in the past 20 years, the only bad top 5 picks that were O-linemen were gallery and mandarich.

[Prophecy]

I'm wondering if anyone knows why I hear none of the experts talking at all about andrea caldwell?....It realy seems baffling?is there some sort of off field issue's?...I mean the guy ran a 40 just as fast as desean jackson(4.37) he had one of the top verticle's...was pretty much top in every cat. at the combine...he's 6'1 210 pounds and the brother of reche caldwell so you know he's had the advantage of working out for a while with pro's...he went to florida and left the all time leading receiver?....I keep looking for something that indicates he shouldnt be a steal in round 1...the scouting report I read(before every site started wanting money) said he catches with his hands and makes circus catches....?anyone no something I should?

He's a WR from the University of Florida thats reason enough not to talk about him. Nah but i think it comes from how soft he plays and the fact that hes made of paper mache, dude was constantly injured during his college career. I personally don't think he plays as fast as his times indicate either.

[Prophecy]

Extremely happy that the fins will be taking Jake Long. You can never go wrong with a franchise tackle especially one as polished as long. I think he can be just as good as Thomas was this year for the browns.

[Prophecy]

Sources: Chiefs agree to send franchise player Allen to Vikes

By John Clayton

Jared Allen, the franchise player for the Kansas City Chiefs, is heading to a new franchise, the Minnesota Vikings, according to multiple sources.

Late Tuesday night, the Chiefs and the Vikings reached an agreement on a trade package, and at roughly the same time, Allen reached an agreement in principle on a contract with the Vikings. Upon reaching the contract agreement, Allen headed to the airport and left for Minnesota.

Sources said the Vikings included a second third-round pick (No. 73) in the 2008 draft to get the deal done. They had been offering a No. 1 pick (17th in the first round) and a No. 3 (No. 82). The teams also swapped spots in the sixth round with the Vikings getting a better spot in the sixth round, sources said.

Terms of Allen's new contract weren't available.

Allen, a fourth-year defensive end out of Idaho State, led the league in sacks last season with 15

[b0mbs_of_death]

Bubba Caldwell was hurt pretty much the whole time he played at UF. I think scouts are worried about that broken leg he got this year.