NFL Offseason Thread

eternalreflection · Post by **eternalreflection** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:33 pm

3/27 is a good deal for them

he sucks, ya'll are blinded by the media...

I'm far from a big Tom Brady fan, but you have to be retarded to actually think he isn't a top5 QB

still illiterate · Post by **still illiterate** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:16 pm

I think he was being sarcastic

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:28 pm

still illiterate wrote:I think he was being sarcastic

no hes truly and idiot

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:29 pm

still illiterate wrote:I think he was being sarcastic

i honestly don't think he's being sarcastic.

Nl5H · Post by **Nl5H** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:14 pm

no...i was being serious... fuck tom shady...i'm sure the patriots will try to cheat their way to another super bowl next year...but this time without a secondary...

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:36 pm

ODDS TO WIN SUPER BOWL XLIII (43)Team Open Current
New England Patriots 5/2
Dallas Cowboys 6/1
Indianapolis Colts 6/1
Green Bay Packers 7/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 10/1
San Diego Chargers 10/1
New York Giants 12/1
Seattle Seahawks 18/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 18/1
New Orleans Saints 20/1
Chicago Bears 25/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 28/1
Tennessee Titans 30/1
Washington Redskins 30/1
Cleveland Browns 30/1
Cincinnati Bengals 38/1
Denver Broncos 38/1
Minnesota Vikings 38/1
Philadelphia Eagles 45/1
Arizona Cardinals 45/1
Buffalo Bills 60/1
Carolina Panthers 60/1
Detroit Lions 60/1
Houston Texans 60/1
New York Jets 75/1
St. Louis Rams 75/1
Kansas City Chiefs 100/1
Baltimore Ravens 125/1
Oakland Raiders 125/1
San Francisco 49ers 125/1
Atlanta Falcons 150/1
Miami Dolphins 150/1

Nl5H · Post by **Nl5H** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:43 pm

^^ can you post up the playoff odds too (if they have those)

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:48 pm

Nl5H wrote:^^ can you post up the playoff odds too (if they have those)

I don't think vegas puts odds on making the playoffs, but i'll check.

still illiterate · Post by **still illiterate** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:28 pm

philly is a little low, and green bay is way too high.

jazzmatazz23 · Post by **jazzmatazz23** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:40 pm

philly is a little to low, and the saints are WAY TO HIGH.

Choke · Post by **Choke** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:53 pm

Odds to win the 2009 Super Bowl XLIII

All wagers have action. Singles Only. Max $600
Arizona Cardinals
50/1

Atlanta Falcons
125/1

Baltimore Ravens
50/1

Buffalo Bills
80/1

Carolina Panthers
55/1

Chicago Bears
30/1

Cincinnati Bengals
40/1

Cleveland Browns
30/1

Dallas Cowboys
8/1

Denver Broncos
40/1

Detroit Lions
65/1

Green Bay Packers
20/1

Houston Texans
60/1

Indianapolis Colts
7/1

Jacksonville Jaguars
14/1

Kansas City Chiefs
100/1

Miami Dolphins
80/1

Minnesota Vikings
30/1

New England Patriots
10/3

New Orleans Saints
25/1

New York Giants
14/1

New York Jets
70/1

Oakland Raiders
100/1

Philadelphia Eagles
25/1

Pittsburgh Steelers
25/1

San Diego Chargers
8/1

San Francisco 49ers
80/1

Seattle Seahawks
28/1

St.Louis Rams
65/1

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
40/1

Tennessee Titans
35/1

Washington Redskins
35/1

Odds to win the 2009 NFC Championship

All wagers have action. Singles Only. Max $600

Arizona Cardinals
16/1

Atlanta Falcons
50/1

Carolina Panthers
22/1

Chicago Bears
12/1

Dallas Cowboys
7/2

Detroit Lions
22/1

Green Bay Packers
7/1

Minnesota Vikings
10/1

New Orleans Saints
10/1

New York Giants
5/1

Philadelphia Eagles
10/1

San Francisco 49ers
25/1

Seattle Seahawks
10/1

St.Louis Rams
22/1

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
14/1

Washington Redskins
14/1

Odds to win the 2009 AFC Championship

All wagers have action. Singles Only. Max $600

Baltimore Ravens
25/1

Buffalo Bills
40/1

Cincinnati Bengals
20/1

Cleveland Browns
14/1

Denver Broncos
20/1

Houston Texans
30/1

Indianapolis Colts
4/1

Jacksonville Jaguars
8/1

Kansas City Chiefs
50/1

Miami Dolphins
40/1

New England Patriots
13/8

New York Jets
40/1

Oakland Raiders
50/1

Pittsburgh Steelers
11/1

San Diego Chargers
9/2

Tennessee Titans
20/1

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:13 pm

i would take that saints and colt action in a minute

still illiterate · Post by **still illiterate** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:37 am

Raiders signed Javon Walker 6 year $55 mil, $16mil guaranteed. Can't believe they paid so much. I wanted Jerry Jones to take a look at him, but not for that much.

Orale Holmes · Post by **Orale Holmes** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:07 am

Im glad he left Denver....couldn't handle playing #2 to B-Marsh....

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:10 am

LOL @ The Raiders. This has to be one of the worst offseasons in sports history.

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:43 am

blastmaster wrote:LOL @ The Raiders. This has to be one of the worst offseasons in sports history.

still illiterate · Post by **still illiterate** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:03 am

an-also wrote:
blastmaster wrote:LOL @ The Raiders. This has to be one of the worst offseasons in sports history.

fuck they haven't even drafted yet. what if they pick a QB with their #1 pick?

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:46 am

www.movethestickshicks.com

Brougham33 · Post by **Brougham33** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:31 am

The return of Marty Booker to the Bears. Hooray. John Madden can circle his hands and talk about how big they are.

If the Bears can stay healthy on defense they can atleast keep the season respectable but with that offensive line and our bizarre RB and not really having a #1 WR....all that probably equals we are one of those teams that can go 7-9 or 9-7.

still illiterate · Post by **still illiterate** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:37 am

I dont see the bears winning 7 games.

Grossman doesn't have it. The offensive line is older, the receivers are worse and benson is injured.

The bears have made 0 improvements to a bad squad. Their only hope is that the defense stays healthy and teams kick to Hester. I see a 5 win season and a great draft pick next year

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:41 am

Brougham33 wrote:The return of Marty Booker to the Bears. Hooray. John Madden can circle his hands and talk about how big they are.

If the Bears can stay healthy on defense they can atleast keep the season respectable but with that offensive line and our bizarre RB and not really having a #1 WR....all that probably equals we are one of those teams that can go 7-9 or 9-7.

in theory you might be right

the vikes are now the class of the north, we'll sweep you again, and you'll sweep the yellow and lions..could be a 8 win team

losing mohammed was huge, you're o line is kinda ratty and old

put Hester back on defense already

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:46 pm

Quick tally on the Pack's cap & the 08 Pack team

Taking out the UFA's and RFA's this is what your team will look like before FA and the draft. Insert what you would realistically like to see, and cut the fat of what you don't want. Hopefully you Packer fans appriciate this more then the Purple did when i did this for my squad over there.

QB : Brett Favre 2008: $12,000,000
Aaron Rodgers 2008: $680,000

RB: Brandon Jackson 2008: $370,000
Grant is an exlusive FA, could someone explain what that means please???
Korey Hall 2008: $370,000
John Kuhn Exclusive rights FA

WR: Donald Driver 2008: $2.9 million (+ $200,000 roster bonus + $50,000 per-game roster bonuses + $206,000 workout bonus)
Greg Jennings 2008: $445,000
James Jones: 2008: $370,000 7/26/2007: Signed a four-year, $2.407 million contract. The deal included a $742,250 signing bonus. The final season can escalate to the low restricted free agent tender based on playing time, or to $1.417 million with 15 percent playing time in 2007 and 30 percent playing time in 2008 or 2009, or 76.6 percent playing time in any two seasons (2007-2009). The deal also contains a salary split for the 2007 preseason, meaning if he is hurt in the preseason and goes on injured reserve, Jones will receive only half of his base salary
Koren Robinson 2008: $730,000 (+ $50,000 workout bonus
Shaun Bodiford 2008: $445,000

TE: Donald Lee 11/5/2007: Signed a four-year, $11.88 million contract extension through 2011. The deal included a $3 million signing bonus. 2007: $2 million, 2008: Under Contract (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1), 2009-2011: Under Contract, 2012: Free Agent
Bubba Franks 2008: $3 million (+ $500,000 roster bonus

LT: Chad Clifton 2008: $3,367,500 (+ $2 million roster bonus
Daryn Colledge 2008: $445,000

LG: Daryn Colledge 2008: $445,000
Allen Barbre: 2008: $370,000

C: Scott Wells 2008: $740,000
Jason Spitz 2007: $360,000

RG: Jason Spitz 2007: $360,000
Tony Moll 2008: $445,000

RT: Mark Tauscher 2008: $3.5 million (+ $1.3 million roster bonus + $200,000 workout bonus

DE: Aaron Kampman 2008: $2.9 million
Michael Montgomery 2008: $460,000
Cullen Jenkins 2008: $2 million
KGB 2008: $6.15 million
Jason Hunter 2008: $445,000

DT: Ryan Pickett 2008: $2.475 million
Justin Harrell 2008: $370,000, (+ $5.3 million option bonus + $30,000 roster bonus)
Conrad Bolston 2008: $370,000

LB: Brady Poppinga 2008: $460,000
Nick Barnett 2008: $2 million (+ $625,000 roster bonus + $150,000 workout bonus
Desmond Bishop 2008: $370,000
AJ Hawk 2008: $650,000 7/28/2006: Signed a six-year, $37.5 million contract. The deal includes $16 million in guarantees

CB: Charles Woodson 2008: $3.25 million
Al Harris 2008: $2.85 million (+ $2 million roster bonus
Will Blackmon 2008: $445,000
Hairy Bush 2008: $445,000

S: Nick Collins 2008: $460,000
Charlie Peprah 2008: $445,000
Aaron Rouse 2008: $370,000

K Mason Crosby 2008: $370,000
P Jon Ryan 2/21/2006: Signed a three-year, $948,750 contract

Brougham33 · Post by **Brougham33** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:53 pm

CaPaBLe_KeL wrote:losing mohammed was huge

Huge? Not really a loss at all. He became an average but reliable WR to a no show unreliable WR very quickly. He needed to go. Waste of money.

CaPaBLe_KeL wrote:put Hester back on defense already

The fuck are you talking about?

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:01 pm

^^ i think moving hester to offense isnt working

eternalreflection · Post by **eternalreflection** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:41 pm

it seems somewhat likely Hester is only NFL-quality at returning punts/kicks/shitty FG attempts

and nothing else, he happens to be the best player at that so he'll still have a job, just he's not going add much at WR other than desperation roster spot with rare burst of brilliance

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:18 pm

eternalreflection wrote:it seems somewhat likely Hester is only NFL-quality at returning punts/kicks/shitty FG attempts

and nothing else, he happens to be the best player at that so he'll still have a job, just he's not going add much at WR other than desperation roster spot with rare burst of brilliance

lol

nailed it

Orale Holmes · Post by **Orale Holmes** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:35 pm

Broncos Sign Linebacker Boss Bailey

Posted on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:18:02 PM EDT

The Denver Broncos on Thursday signed unrestricted free-agent linebacker Boss Bailey, Head Coach Mike Shanahan announced. As per club policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Bailey (6-foot-3, 235 pounds) is entering his sixth NFL season and joins the Broncos after spending the last five years with Detroit. The Lions selected him in the second round (34th overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft from the University of Georgia.

Bailey, who has started at least 11 games in every season that he has played, is the younger brother of Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey and followed him as an All-Southeastern Conference selection at Georgia. The two will be the fourth pair of brothers to play for the Broncos and will join Dave and Doug Widell (1990-92) along with Eldon and William Danenhauer (1960) as the third set to play for the franchise at the same time.

The 28-year-old Bailey has appeared in 58 career games (51 starts), posting 258 tackles (188 solo), seven sacks (40.5 yds.) and two interceptions (32 yds.). He also has registered 13 pass breakups, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery and seven special-teams tackles for his career.

In 2007, Bailey posted a career-high 3.5 sacks (16.0 yds.) while adding 47 tackles (33 solo), two pass breakups and one forced fumble in 15 games (12 starts) at strongside linebacker for Detroit. He started eight games at strongside linebacker and four contests at middle linebacker for the Lions in 2006, appearing in all 16 games and totaling 65 tackles (48 solo) with one sack that year.

After missing the 2004 season with a knee injury, Bailey started all 11 games played in 2005 and had 58 tackles, one sack and one interception, which he returned 34 yards for a touchdown. He was named All-Rookie by ESPN.com and Football Digest with Detroit in 2003 when he set a career high with 88 tackles (68 solo) as a 16-game starter.

A first-team All-SEC selection as well as a semifinalist for the Butkus and Lombardi Awards as a senior, Bailey was a three-year starter at Georgia. He received honorable mention All-America honors from USA Today at Charlton County High School in Folkston, Ga.

So who here has watch him play???? I have no clue about him, other than he's champs brother from the Lions.

still illiterate · Post by **still illiterate** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:52 pm

are you kidding, hester on defense?

Poor WR play is much more forgiving then poor DB play. Hester is decent enough on offense, mostly as a decoy. but he does some good to a bad bears squad.

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:24 pm

still illiterate wrote:are you kidding, hester on defense?

Poor WR play is much more forgiving then poor DB play. Hester is decent enough on offense, mostly as a decoy. but he does some good to a bad bears squad.

okay, so we want avergae..if that ...offense, > to beyond dope defense, in the secondary..?

wtf?
you seen the last few championship games

mad defense sahn

and run the ball

or become a vikings fan

choose wisely

Orale Holmes · Post by **Orale Holmes** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:21 pm

http://www.cbs4denver.com/video/?id=397 ... ayport.com

This is a big deal for Denver right now....