Grieves - 88 Keys And Counting

[malpractice]

excuse me obnoxious girl, plz to be butting out of this conversation. why are you even here? jesus.

let me reply and then i gotta go to bed.

[sean]

can you answer this for me?
did grieves pursue RSE or was it the other way around?

we don't accept demos, if that's what you are asking.
we work with friends.

it's my understanding that mac left RSE himself to do his own thing and help people like ungrateful, backstabbing grieves pop off.

that is a great line.
stare at it like one of those magic mall pictures.
tell me if you can see what i see.

and what does grieves do? signs to rse.
that's a bitch move. im sorry. it is.

well gosh, half of our roster started somewhere else.
are they all bitch movers?

[obscureobscenities]

who are you?

[obscureobscenities]

[malpractice]

and what does grieves do? signs to rse.
that's a bitch move. im sorry. it is.

well gosh, half of our roster started somewhere else.
are they all bitch movers?

it's not the same thing and you know it.

and im kinda surprised by how hard you're baiting me about this.

you and mac are friends, yes?
but you're also friends with grieves? really?
that just doesnt make a lot of sense to me.

and no one wants to say anything other than "you dont know what happened".

you and mac have both said there's no bad blood amongst rse/black clover, but you're rallying awfully hard for this kid and bordering insulting mac and his label.

besides, why does it matter what i think anyways?
teenage girls love grieves, ive seen it. that'll be perfect for selling records. who cares what i think?

[malpractice]

the bottom line is.

whether or not you or i know what really happened, i dont think he's talented and im entitled to say so. and im sure it gets dismissed as hearsay, but if enough people start murmuring about what a dick you are all the time, there's probably some truth to it. but thats only one of the reasons i think hes wack. he doesnt have the talent to back up his attitude, imo.

you are frustrating me.
i am going to sleep!

[maclethal]

Lmao at "Grieves is a snake! Why won't he call me back?"

I'd totally be checkmated by that logic if it were applicable. But it's not. It's a funny paraphrase though.

Confused by the mall picture line. The two situations aren't comparable in my opinion.

[sean]

you going to bed?

it's not the same thing and you know it.

uh, how do you figure?
grieves did not leave black clover for rse.
grieves left black clover for grieves.
grieves accepted our offer.
end.

and im kinda surprised by how hard you're baiting me about this.

don't be.
you came in here to spew second-hand shit that you know absolutely nothing about.
you know that to be true.
why wouldn't i refute you?
you could have laid low, and waited.
mac would have eventually came in to throw darts.
and since this isn't his board, i would have responded the same way.

you and mac are friends, yes?
but you're also friends with grieves? really?
that just doesnt make a lot of sense to me.

because i don't base my friendships on some he-said-she-said bullshit.
it's a fucking one-sided high school lover's quarrel.
and you're sitting at the lunch table picking sides?

and no one wants to say anything other than "you dont know what happened"

why would anyone give you anymore than that?
you have nothing to do with it.
in fact, knowing you have nothing to do with it, don't you find it odd that anyone involved would give you their side?

you and mac have both said there's no bad blood amongst rse/black clover, but you're rallying awfully hard for this kid and bordering insulting mac and his label.

slow down. where did i borderline insult anyone?
the mall pic thing?
rofl.
interpretation is a choice yo.
rallying? i guess.
grieves is good people.
end.

besides, why does it matter what i think anyways?
teenage girls love grieves, ive seen it. that'll be perfect for selling records. who cares what i think?

the who-cares-what-i-think technique.
much easier than admitting that you were wrong.
i see you.
run along now. you're not built for this type of trash.
stick to that high level boarding you've perfected.

[obscureobscenities]

goodnight

[sean]

Lmao at "Grieves is a snake! Why won't he call me back?"

I'd totally be checkmated by that logic if it were applicable. But it's not. It's a funny paraphrase though.

Confused by the mall picture line. The two situations aren't comparable in my opinion.

good evening mac.

how is that logic not applicable?
you call the guy a bunch of names, and in the same breath talk shit about how he won't call you.
the few people i hate don't call me either, kinda weird eh?
it's illogical yo.

in my opinion, the two situations are comparable.
well, except for the fact that i'm not upset, and i wish you well on your endeavors.

[malpractice]

i wasnt in here spewing shit.
i said, "ugh" and then you baited me. "tell me what the problem is" etc etc.
when you already know how i feel about this because i posted about it elsewhere. you just wanted to start shit with me because i dont know why.

the who-cares-what-i-think technique.
much easier than admitting that you were wrong.
i see you.
run along now. you're not built for this type of trash.
stick to that high level boarding you've perfected.

im not wrong, and what the fuck is this "hlb" shit? i take more hits than a lot of people here. im not afraid to be unpopular. you probably know me better than anyone else here, but you're trying to act like im just some asshole who needs to be put in her place. my opinion on philaflava is not going to affect grieves or his album one bit.

[maclethal]

uh, how do you figure?
grieves did not leave black clover for rse.
grieves left black clover for grieves.
grieves accepted our offer.
end.

This isn't true.

I'm honest to god not going to throw darts. I've wasted enough of my own time being resentful and venomous over it. But, simply put, that is a false statement. We can discuss it off forum if you want.

[malpractice]

sorry mac.

[sean]

i wasnt in here spewing shit.
i said, "ugh" and then you baited me. "tell me what the problem is" etc etc.
when you already know how i feel about this because i posted about it elsewhere. you just wanted to start shit with me because i dont know why.

the who-cares-what-i-think technique.
much easier than admitting that you were wrong.
i see you.
run along now. you're not built for this type of trash.
stick to that high level boarding you've perfected.

im not wrong, and what the fuck is this "hlb" shit? i take more hits than a lot of people here. im not afraid to be unpopular. you probably know me better than anyone else here, but you're trying to act like im just some asshole who needs to be put in her place. my opinion on philaflava is not going to affect grieves or his album one bit.

this:

But, uh, whose in charge of quality control over there, Sluggerino Bronson?

thats what i wanna know

i am way more heated about this than i should be.
i dont wanna go into it again.

is why i started with you. make sense?
and yeah, i baited you to talk more shit because i knew you would.
i manipulated this opportunity to give you some perspective.
it's your choice whether or not you take it.
rofl, and you pull the "least popular kid here" shit.
that fits with the who-cares-what-i-think shit.
all of these cats clown on you, and you take it with thick skin.
but when i give you some static you take it personal.
truss the high level boarding thing was a joke.
i learned it from emp.


and you are wrong.
so there!!!!

[malpractice]

well im glad this was entertaining for you.

[sean]

uh, how do you figure?
grieves did not leave black clover for rse.
grieves left black clover for grieves.
grieves accepted our offer.
end.

This isn't true.

actually, it is true.
he wasn't guaranteed a home with us when he left bcr.
you know as well as anyone that things don't work like that.
but of course you are allowed to interpret his departure however you want.

[sean]

well im glad this was entertaining for you.

far from that.

[maclethal]

Lmao at "Grieves is a snake! Why won't he call me back?"

I'd totally be checkmated by that logic if it were applicable. But it's not. It's a funny paraphrase though.

Confused by the mall picture line. The two situations aren't comparable in my opinion.

good evening mac.

how is that logic not applicable?
you call the guy a bunch of names, and in the same breath talk shit about how he won't call you.
the few people i hate don't call me either, kinda weird eh?
it's illogical yo.

in my opinion, the two situations are comparable.
well, except for the fact that i'm not upset, and i wish you well on your endeavors.

1. Good evening man. How's the little guy developing?

2. It's not applicable. I don't give a shit if he calls me now. I was referencing the months and months leading up to this. Before I ever shit on him in public (ayo). He never once called me to inform me that he was not satisfied. In fact, he enthusiastically said the exact opposite. Without getting into too much heresy we knew about the "offer(s) on the table" and how he was "turning them down."

My point in him not calling me was that during the development of this shitstorm; he never once gave me a call to discuss things. When he decided to break out, he didn't even call me. He had his manager call my manager for him. I still have yet to hear a peep out of him.

3. True, both of us left our labels. That's where the comparability ends, in my opinion. My sentiments of the utmost respect and appreciation remain the same for RSE. I fought hard, and passionately wished the outcome would have been different. I won't publicly say anything other than that. The situation with Grieves and BCR was very much different from my situation with RSE. Again, we can discuss that in private if you see it differently and feel it needs to be examined, but I am unwilling to talk about it publicly.

[maclethal]

uh, how do you figure?
grieves did not leave black clover for rse.
grieves left black clover for grieves.
grieves accepted our offer.
end.

This isn't true.

actually, it is true.
he wasn't guaranteed a home with us when he left bcr.
you know as well as anyone that things don't work like that.
but of course you are allowed to interpret his departure however you want.

I pondered typing 12-13 paragraphs to dispute this claim, but I'm not going to.

While I consider you a very honest friend of mine, with no reason to lie, and definitely no history of lying. I think this particular idea is a crock of shit. Let me reiterate though -- I don't think you are lying. I just think it's untrue.

I call for a stalemate on this. Because you are also allowed to interpret his departure however you want.

[sean]

1. Good evening man. How's the little guy developing?

2. It's not applicable. I don't give a shit if he calls me now. I was referencing the months and months leading up to this. Before I ever shit on him in public (ayo). He never once called me to inform me that he was not satisfied. In fact, he enthusiastically said the exact opposite. Without getting into too much heresy we knew about the "offer(s) on the table" and how he was "turning them down."

My point in him not calling me was that during the development of this shitstorm; he never once gave me a call to discuss things. When he decided to break out, he didn't even call me. He had his manager call my manager for him. I still have yet to hear a peep out of him.

3. True, both of us left our labels. That's where the comparability ends, in my opinion. My sentiments of the utmost respect and appreciation remain the same for RSE. I fought hard, and passionately wished the outcome would have been different. I won't publicly say anything other than that. The situation with Grieves and BCR was very much different from my situation with RSE. Again, we can discuss that in private if you see it differently and feel it needs to be examined, but I am unwilling to talk about it publicly.

1. absolutely fine, thanks very much.

2. agree to disagree.

3. private discussions are boring.

[maclethal]

1. absolutely fine, thanks very much.

2. agree to disagree.

3. private discussions are boring.

1. Awesome.

2. I will try to shorten this, so we are clear.

The chronology of how things unfolded makes "Grieves is a faggot! Why won't he call me?" inapplicable logic. The dart throwing happened after he pulled the bullshit. Not the other way around. "Grieves never even called me. What a faggot!" Is a much more accurate way of depicting my stance on this. End.

3. Couldn't agree more.

[sean]

roffle. i see what you did there.

can i get a page 3?

[maclethal]

Goodnight. If this doesn't get you to page 3, you're on your own.

[Moolah]

[DLG]

sounds terrible. should have put the homie intuition on.

[ardamus]

two managers talk to each other and dude got to skate without the actual artist and label head talking? no meeting involved? breach of contract anyone (assuming there was one)?

[CHANCE RANDOM]

Wow. Sorry for kicking all that off, folks.

[Larry Lover]

http://whitewhine.tumblr.com/

[Sankofa]

When worlds collude.

[hellriser]

no

ugh.

Yo, why is that kid so emo?

son of chris palko.

i don like this

im wait for freeway album rather