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Anyone run Linux?

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If so, what distro have you got installed?

At the moment, I'm using Fedora Core 4.

It's one the the best distributions I've tried so far. A while ago I used gentoo, which was also excellent, but took much more time to install and set up.

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Still a Linux noob here......but I liked what I was able to do with Mandrake 9 and up. The last one I was tooling with was 10.1 though.

I forget the name of that distro from South Africa but I didn't like that one too much more like got stuck somewhere and it pissed me off.

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i used mandrake for a minute...

and then i stopped programming.
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Slackware is my favorite distro.

Haven't used Linux on my PC in a while though.

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installed (which was a bitch) and used gentoo on a laptop at work last summer
using cern scientific linux at work right now, which is a hacked version of red hat 7.3

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I've been using linux for a few years now, been through lots of distros. I used slackware for a year or so, and eventually stuck with gentoo, which I've been using for about 3 years now. I don't really even fuck with windows anymore, except when using other people's computers.

squ1d, the south african distro is most likely Ubuntu
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^^^ Yep, that's it. Thanks :grin:

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The_Kernel wrote:I don't really even fuck with windows anymore, except when using other people's computers.
you know, your username gives you away.
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Yeah I have a tendency to install a Linux distribution, have a play around with it for a couple of weeks, then reinstall windows.

It's usually because I need to use some hardware that I can't get to work. At the moment I'm still struggling to get my wireless USB to work in Fedora, so have wires lying around everywhere.

What I liked most about Gentoo was the tool that would download packages and dependencies, one of the most irritating thing about installing software on Linux. Fedora comes with Yum which may be the same thing or is at least very similar.

The thing is, I always see a Linux installation as being harder. But when I actually think about it. Since I never buy any software for windows, after a fresh installation I always need to download hacked CD burners, DVD player, Office .. etc etc.

There are now at least 3 distributions that I think can rival windows as a desktop operating system for a computer user with an average level of proficiency. The only thing still holding Linux back is hardware support but that has come on in leaps and bounds over the past couple of years.

On another note, I'm trying to set up that PS2 Linux distro at the moment. Fucking cool idea!

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Slackware all day every day

I use it at work, I use it on my Linode

And since my PowerBook has gone flakey, I use it on my main PC at home too

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Distros I've used, rated in order:

1)Gentoo
2)Slackware
3)Redhat

After the novelty of not using Windows wore off, I switched back to Windows. It does everything I need to, it does it easily, and people don't look at me weird when they see my computer (although I do boot up Gentoo if I'm trying to look smart).
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drunkenchrist wrote:Distros I've used, rated in order:

1)Gentoo
2)Slackware
3)Redhat

After the novelty of not using Windows wore off, I switched back to Windows. It does everything I need to, it does it easily, and people don't look at me weird when they see my computer (although I do boot up Gentoo if I'm trying to look smart).
Maybe it's just because I've been using it for long enough, but linux feels much easier for me than windows ever did. It doesn't fight me when trying to change things around like windows was so fond of doing
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The_Kernel wrote:Maybe it's just because I've been using it for long enough, but linux feels much easier for me than windows ever did. It doesn't fight me when trying to change things around like windows was so fond of doing
I would agree with this.

Plus in Linux it's easy to automate 95% of the repetitive tasks you do with a computer. (Well, easy if you know your shell scripting.)

The tradeoff is that it takes years to learn enough to make Linux superior... You need to have a lot in your toolbox to use it to its full potential. I first played around with Linux in 97, and I'm still learning, even though I have some real skill now.

I can use vi naturally, bitches.

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Beek wrote:
The_Kernel wrote:Maybe it's just because I've been using it for long enough, but linux feels much easier for me than windows ever did. It doesn't fight me when trying to change things around like windows was so fond of doing
I would agree with this.

Plus in Linux it's easy to automate 95% of the repetitive tasks you do with a computer. (Well, easy if you know your shell scripting.)

The tradeoff is that it takes years to learn enough to make Linux superior... You need to have a lot in your toolbox to use it to its full potential. I first played around with Linux in 97, and I'm still learning, even though I have some real skill now.

I can use vi naturally, bitches.
Yea, shell scripting saves me a ton of time, especially when dealing with a lot of similar files. Plus you've got to love that

Code: Select all

:() { :|: & } ; : 
Is A) a legal shell script and B) will break your computer
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if i wanted to make an external hard drive, could i boot linux from it.
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yeah

if you just want to see what linux is all about, there are a lot of really good "live cds" out there that will let you boot linux from a cd and you can see what it is like.

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i use ubuntu. i find it easy as fuck to use (mepis and pc-linux-os are even easier apparently), synaptic is a much better way to install software then windows does (no rebooting after install is good too)

linux people weill try tell you the best thing about linux is no viruses or spyware, personally i never had problems with either on windows though

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cuntface wrote: linux people weill try tell you the best thing about linux is no viruses or spyware, personally i never had problems with either on windows though
if you're good at the internet, you shouldnt have problems with virii/spyware even on windows...but, in the real world there are tons of people that aren't that good at the internets, and this can fuck up entire networks...for example, at work we are having problems accessing a database overseas because of the recent worm that spread...windows just doesn't do a good job protecting people with average/below average computer knowledge, which is a majority of people out there using the internet

i have a stupid ass roommate, who is actually very booksmart, but will go to one of those collegehumor type sites and click on almost every link on the page...after a session, his machine will probably be infected with 10 new pieces of spyware/malware...he then wonders why his machine isn't functioning properly

i cleaned up my cousin's laptop last week, and it was the most virus/spyware infested machine i have ever seen...a prelimenary run of an ad-aware scan found over 1300 objects alone

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The worst computer users are middle/highschool girls.

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squ1d wrote:The worst computer users are middle/highschool girls.
no way, at least at this point they've probably all been familiarized to how computers function, in a broad sense. The worst have to be older people who've never used any computers before.
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squ1d wrote:The worst computer users are middle/highschool girls.
i trained my sister well...

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

they grow up so fast.....

it seems like just yesterday she was getting hit on by 40 year old perverts....

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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The_Kernel wrote:
squ1d wrote:The worst computer users are middle/highschool girls.
no way, at least at this point they've probably all been familiarized to how computers function, in a broad sense. The worst have to be older people who've never used any computers before.
i agree...i let my high school aged sister use my computer at home and she has done a very good job of keeping it clean

my cousin, who is in his thirties, on the other hand, is very bad at using his computer

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Old people suck, but the majority of them still don't use computers.

Highschool girls, in terms of having spyware/malware/virii got shit on lock.

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i dont even understand how people GET spyware/viruses.
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squ1d wrote:Old people suck, but the majority of them still don't use computers.

Highschool girls, in terms of having spyware/malware/virii got shit on lock.
I see your point, they might be the most indignant ones, since they often seem to expect shit to always work no matter what, and any issue, no matter how self inflicted, is just the result of someone else's fuckup
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FoJaR wrote:i dont even understand how people GET spyware/viruses.
goider wrote:i have a stupid ass roommate, who is actually very booksmart, but will go to one of those collegehumor type sites and click on almost every link on the page...after a session, his machine will probably be infected with 10 new pieces of spyware/malware...he then wonders why his machine isn't functioning properly

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goider wrote:
FoJaR wrote:i dont even understand how people GET spyware/viruses.
goider wrote:i have a stupid ass roommate, who is actually very booksmart, but will go to one of those collegehumor type sites and click on almost every link on the page...after a session, his machine will probably be infected with 10 new pieces of spyware/malware...he then wonders why his machine isn't functioning properly
yeah... but that's just fucking stupid.

what does he expect to happen?
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The_Kernel wrote:
drunkenchrist wrote:Distros I've used, rated in order:

1)Gentoo
2)Slackware
3)Redhat

After the novelty of not using Windows wore off, I switched back to Windows. It does everything I need to, it does it easily, and people don't look at me weird when they see my computer (although I do boot up Gentoo if I'm trying to look smart).
Maybe it's just because I've been using it for long enough, but linux feels much easier for me than windows ever did. It doesn't fight me when trying to change things around like windows was so fond of doing
I don't like Wine, I don't like Gimp, and I don't like having to work to get hardware functioning. Windows handles my hardware well enough, natively supports some of my favorite programs (Photoshop, Flash), and has ports of all the freeware programs I liked using on Linux (Firefox, OpenOffice, Emacs). Of course, after using several OS's, I've realized that they can all access porn, which is the only thing that really matters anyway, right?
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drunkenchrist wrote:
The_Kernel wrote:
drunkenchrist wrote:Distros I've used, rated in order:

1)Gentoo
2)Slackware
3)Redhat

After the novelty of not using Windows wore off, I switched back to Windows. It does everything I need to, it does it easily, and people don't look at me weird when they see my computer (although I do boot up Gentoo if I'm trying to look smart).
Maybe it's just because I've been using it for long enough, but linux feels much easier for me than windows ever did. It doesn't fight me when trying to change things around like windows was so fond of doing
I don't like Wine, I don't like Gimp, and I don't like having to work to get hardware functioning. Windows handles my hardware well enough, natively supports some of my favorite programs (Photoshop, Flash), and has ports of all the freeware programs I liked using on Linux (Firefox, OpenOffice, Emacs). Of course, after using several OS's, I've realized that they can all access porn, which is the only thing that really matters anyway, right?
I'm just usually put off by things that operate too automatically, I like to have more fine grained control I guess. It's certainly not for everyone though, and I can definitely see why one would choose to stay with windows
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FoJaR wrote:what does he expect to happen?
Is it logical that you should be able to break your computer just from browsing the web?

A userland program that runs as an unpriviledged user should never be able to damage the operating. Never. Even if it has security holes.

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