The Official NBA Draft/Offseason Thread

[Tweak Da Leak]

Ben Wallace is top 10-20 player since 00's, so of course it would be a steal if he turned into that. Question is, can he turn into Marcus Camby? If he does that and Hornets pick is high but not in the protected range (1-5, right?) then it is win for 76ers. The difference in salary is huge.

Obviously if Noel is a bust and Hornets get a top 5 pick they win big.

Noel can become prime garnett defensively

[alpha]

The kid is 19. He's gonna get stronger and bust his ass to work on his game. Lots of people assuming and acting like he's reached his ceiling already. Smh

[The Rapping Coffin]

^You going to be rooting for Nets next year? I know I will be. I also agree about Rondo. Either sit him all year or showcase him and then trade him. I'd lean towards trading him.

Nope. I'm rooting for the Nets and Hawks to be terrible. If the Nets make the playoffs I'll root for them (and let's face it, that team has serious 13 Lakers potential with Brook"s foot and Pierce/KG's age).

[Shade Tree]

Noel can become prime garnett defensively

This is a strong comment.

[Reason]

so i wanted to get the specifics of everything before i gave my 2 cents on the nets deal

and all i can say is

you're telling me i can get rid of gerald wallace?

wait.

so you're gonna take gerald wallace off my hands?


HOLD ON. one second. you are SERIOUSLY going to take gerald wallace in this deal?


that alone has me so happy i'm doin a fuckin harlem shake right now. we were cap-strapped REGARDLESS and due for a shit ton of medicore draft picks in the 20's range for several years. i am ecstatic about getting rid of g-wallace. in fact, the only assets we gave up i give a shit about are the last draft pick and marshon brooks. but those are prices i'll pay to make my season ticket worth more and to have a much better team...deron-joe-pierce-garnett-lopez? holy fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[naturalborn103]

^Those later picks, including the 2017 swap, could be pretty good picks for the Cs. paying 55+ mil to Joe Johnson, D Williams, and Lopez 3 years down the line can not be good. Especially when you have no draft picks to get a young cheap talent.

[naturalborn103]

https://twitter.com/RealTylerTynes/stat ... 4726307840

#Sixers attempt to trade Turner and get into the end of the first round has failed I'm being told.

Turner sucks

[The Rapping Coffin]

reason- those nets picks aren't going to be in the 20s range in 2017 and 2018

[Reason]

paying 55+ mil to Joe Johnson, D Williams, and Lopez 3 years down the line can not be good.

taht was my point though yo...we are paying those 3 that much loot REGARDLESS

reason- those nets picks aren't going to be in the 20s range in 2017 and 2018

yea i will have to backtrack and include the 2017 one too...i already mentioned the last one (2018) hurts though

[naturalborn103]

Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) tweeted at 6:14 PM on Fri, Jun 28, 2013:
The quote I just retweeted is an outright, 100 percent lie. I'd be careful, Glenn. Seriously. Stop talking. You are making sh*t up.
(https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/ ... 1302641664)

[Req]

Love that Simmons is calling his ass out and not backing down. Like most dumb fuck athletes, Doc thinks he can lie and bully his way out of everything. Fuck him.

[stupidregister]

Why is he acting so butthurt?

First of all, it's sports. It's not your wife leaving you for another man. It's a coach leaving your shitty franchise because they tried to milk every last drop out of a decently talented bunch of guys past their prime. Get over it. You had a nice little run but now it's your turn to go through a Ron Mercer, Dino Radja-like era again. Deal with it, everyone has to. You got a title out of it which is more than most fans can say about their favorite clubs so shut the fuck up already. Fucking whiny little Boston bitch. Go console yourself with images of your football team's decade of dominance or your hockey team's Cup run. Fucking pretentious spoiled brat.

On the other hand, who cares if some twerpy Boston asswipe calls you a quitter? You're going to live in LA, make $7 million this year, and coach one of the best teams in the league instead of toiling with Jared Sullinger and whomever the fuck else. Why are you getting into a national pissing match with whiny little crybaby? Why don't you take all that energy you're using to argue through the media and focus it on teaching Blake Griffin how to shoot a jumper or maybe helping your kid turn into a decent 10th man. Fucking A' you're a dumb fucking imbecile.

That being said, it is kinda funny. Both to see grown men acting like teenage girls but mostly because it's totally overshadowed the draft (which I guess wasn't that hard considering it's the worst one in NBA history).

[naturalborn103]

Love that Simmons is calling his ass out and not backing down. Like most dumb fuck athletes, Doc thinks he can lie and bully his way out of everything. Fuck him.

Rivers is obviously not dumb and he's a coach not an athlete. Why do you assume Doc is lying? And what the hell is Simmons going to do. He really threatening him?..

[Req]

Rivers is obviously not dumb

He's a fucking idiot for thinking he can get away with bald face lies.

and he's a coach not an athlete.

I could give a fuck if he's currently a successful sponge salesman. He was a pro athlete for 13 years, so he has that prevailing mentality where you take ownership for fuck all because you've been coddled all your life with people covering up for you.

"my twitter was hacked!"
"that quote was taken out of context!"
"I've never even met that woman! I had no idea she had a penis!"

gtfoh

Why do you assume Doc is lying?

Because he JUST GOT CAUGHT LYING and is still trying to spin it. - http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/bost ... ton-media/
What do people who get caught in a lie do? Tell more lies. Now he's insinuating that Simmons has some front-office sway with the Celtics? He tried to set up a meeting with the owners? LOL, come the fuck on.

And what the hell is Simmons going to do.

make a KILLER PODCAST with 14 references to The Real World, 3 to ER and 1 to Beverly Hills 90210 that will end the stellar d-league career of Jeremiah Rivers. I'd include Austin Rivers, but no-one's had to defend themselves against his shots in years.

[binary]

Simmons is great.

[naturalborn103]

and he's a coach not an athlete.

I could give a fuck if he's currently a successful sponge salesman. He was a pro athlete for 13 years, so he has that prevailing mentality where you take ownership for fuck all because you've been coddled all your life with people covering up for you.

"my twitter was hacked!"
"that quote was taken out of context!"
"I've never even met that woman! I had no idea she had a penis!"

gtfoh

If Phil Jackson did something like this would you call him an athlete? Doc Rivers by ALL accounts his whole career coaching and playing has been stand up guy who doesn't make excuses.

Why do you assume Doc is lying?

Because he JUST GOT CAUGHT LYING and is still trying to spin it. - http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/bost ... ton-media/
What do people who get caught in a lie do? Tell more lies. Now he's insinuating that Simmons has some front-office sway with the Celtics? He tried to set up a meeting with the owners? LOL, come the fuck on.

That article doesn't say much besides trying to take gotcha quotes out of interview where he is speaking freely and off the cuff. He wasn't sure what he wanted to do, like every year, and obviously going into a rebuilding process was part the equation. While deciding and taking with Ainge Clippers where brought up and he said he would coach them and Ainge worked out a deal. He never denies he would rather coach a contender then a team about to trade all its pieces and be horrible next few years. He ultimately decide he was going to come back and do the rebuilding process but the trade was already made. He worded it a little different one time from another I really don't care. What is he really being attacked for? That he wanted to think about if he really wanted to coach a rebuilding team? Doesn't he have that right? Or cause he signed 5 year contract he doesn't? Cause we all know teams honor coaches contracts every single time. And he was going to come back and coach anyway if deal didn't happen.

He also never said Simmons had any front office sway, he is just saying Simmons was trying and thought he had it.

And what the hell is Simmons going to do.

make a KILLER PODCAST with 14 references to The Real World, 3 to ER and 1 to Beverly Hills 90210 that will end the stellar d-league career of Jeremiah Rivers. I'd include Austin Rivers, but no-one's had to defend themselves against his shots in years.

Happy we agree on what Simmons could do.

[VideoKilledThe]

Simmons played his role fine on the broadcast last night. He was an honest, funny, and entertaining fan.

Yup, pretty much this.

Don't understand why the Nets are willing to pay so much money to be a slightly-above-average team in the east. Yeah the starting 5 is impressive offensively, but who is going to play defense?

All these Cs and 6ers fans counting their future lottery choices as a sure thing is humorous, did we not learn anything from the James Harden trade? I only think one of the Cs first rders from the Nets will end up being in the lottery.

also cheering for the Nets as a Cs fan is some straight up Hayzoo faggot shit. I love Kobe, been a Laker his whole career(not counting draft night) like Pierce was a Celtic, but if he got traded to the Suns, or Clippers, or a division rival he would be dead to me.

[Reason]

btw, not that anyone cares, but tyshawn taylor is no joke. he is going to shine in limited minutes

[Hayzoos]

You can tell all he did was look at youtube clips.

Isn't that what you, everyone here, and probably most sports talk show hosts do?

[Hayzoos]

Why is he acting so butthurt?

First of all, it's sports. It's not your wife leaving you for another man. It's a coach leaving your shitty franchise because they tried to milk every last drop out of a decently talented bunch of guys past their prime. Get over it. You had a nice little run but now it's your turn to go through a Ron Mercer, Dino Radja-like era again. Deal with it, everyone has to. You got a title out of it which is more than most fans can say about their favorite clubs so shut the fuck up already. Fucking whiny little Boston bitch. Go console yourself with images of your football team's decade of dominance or your hockey team's Cup run. Fucking pretentious spoiled brat.

On the other hand, who cares if some twerpy Boston asswipe calls you a quitter? You're going to live in LA, make $7 million this year, and coach one of the best teams in the league instead of toiling with Jared Sullinger and whomever the fuck else. Why are you getting into a national pissing match with whiny little crybaby? Why don't you take all that energy you're using to argue through the media and focus it on teaching Blake Griffin how to shoot a jumper or maybe helping your kid turn into a decent 10th man. Fucking A' you're a dumb fucking imbecile.

That being said, it is kinda funny. Both to see grown men acting like teenage girls but mostly because it's totally overshadowed the draft (which I guess wasn't that hard considering it's the worst one in NBA history).

Dude you are the fucking worst

[alpha]

nat,

you're coming across like a huge Doc lover right now. Glenn is over his head with his quotes. Calling out Simmons is a bad look. Simmons while being an obnoxious writer the last few years most of the time tho he calls it legit. yeah he makes up asinine trades and writes articles that are 3x too long. But I wouldn't discount what he's saying. Like Doc said, " he's a fan" What does he stand to gain by calling out Doc?

[Reason]

if the nets can get this korver signing done we are going to see the heat in the eastern conference finals

[Req]

if the nets can get this korver signing done we are going to see the heat in the eastern conference finals

i do like the ring of Pacers/Knicks/Heat/Nets in the eastern semis.

[Reason]

if the nets can get this korver signing done we are going to see the heat in the eastern conference finals

i do like the ring of Pacers/Knicks/Heat/Nets in the eastern semis.

its almost like you're trolling hayzoos

[Gregg Popabitch]

But jay Bilas

I mean, he's got books to sell, so I get it. But still, no.


PEACE

I was being facetious.

[Positive A]

Can someone post the NBA Insider Draft recap/ratings? Thx.

[Vlad Analogue]

Can someone post the NBA Insider Draft recap/ratings? Thx.

please

[capable_keL]

Bob Donnan/USA TODAY Sports
Michael Carter-Williams will have a chance to play immediately in Philadelphia.

Stephen Curry was drafted by Golden State at No. 7 in 2009; Kawhi Leonard was selected 15th by San Antonio two years ago; and Damian Lillard went sixth to Portland in 2012. They are all quality players, but almost equally as important as their draft position was the spot in which they landed.

Let's take a look at five players from the 2013 NBA draft who should be able to excel quickly and five more who could be slower to develop.

Early impact

Michael Carter-Williams, Philadelphia 76ers

Philadelphia took him with the 11th pick, minutes after dealing away All-Star point guard Jrue Holiday. Carter-Williams is long and talented -- and should get an immediate opportunity to earn the starting point guard spot. Will he make his mistakes? Absolutely. However, MCW has an extremely high upside and should get a chance to learn under fire. If he can become a solid long-range shooter, he could be scary good.



Trey Burke, Utah Jazz

Utah dealt its No. 14 and 21 selections to move up to No. 9 and grab Burke. It's a logical move, and the ideal marriage for both sides: The Jazz get a heady, high-character floor leader whose game translates to the next level. Sure, he's not a super athlete -- but Utah coach Tyrone Corbin likely will rely on him to come right in and start. Mo Williams, Earl Watson and Jamaal Tinsley are all free agents. This will be Burke's show from the outset.


Victor Oladipo, Orlando Magic

The former self-made Indiana star is still a work in progress on the offensive end, but he'll make an instant impact thanks to his motor, his ability to defend, his work ethic and his personality. Oladipo's effort will get him -- and keep him -- on the floor. He won't put up gaudy offensive numbers, but he'll do a little bit of everything and find a way to have an impact on the game. Think of a smaller Michael Kidd-Gilchrist with a better offensive game. Magic GM Rob Hennigan loves this kid, and Oladipo will get every opportunity to succeed.



Shabazz Muhammad, Minnesota Timberwolves

I've always maintained that Muhammad is vastly overrated, but he was taken by the right team in Minnesota and at a legitimate spot (No. 14). The Wolves possess one of the best true passers in the league in Ricky Rubio, plus one of the most gifted and skilled big men in Kevin Love. Although Muhammad is a mediocre shooter, a mediocre athlete and a subpar defender, I still think he'll find a way to get onto the court because of his physicality and toughness -- and will find a way to get his points (he doesn't do much else). The Wolves are desperate for a productive wing, and Muhammad -- although not what he was cracked up to be -- has always been productive.


Alex Len, Phoenix Suns

Suns rookie general manager Ryan McDonough went with the 7-foot-1 Ukrainian over Nerlens Noel with the No. 5 pick. Len is skilled offensively, and he will be thrown into the fire because the Suns have arguably the most barren roster in the league. Don't be surprised to see Len as one of the top 10 centers in the NBA by the end of his first contract. He is valuable on both ends of the court.


Tough situations

Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks

I like Milwaukee GM John Hammonds, but I don't understand what he was thinking with this pick. The consensus among just about every NBA executive who saw the intriguing Greek point forward was that he needs at least two -- maybe three -- more years overseas. The Bucks need help. Now. My guess is Antetokounmpo could be relevant about the same time the Celtics are relevant again -- maybe 2016 or so.


Tim Hardaway Jr., New York Knicks

The Knicks took the son of the former NBA star late in the first round (24), and, although it seems there is room for him with the departure of J.R. Smith, he'll have to beat out Iman Shumpert for playing time. Hardaway is a streaky, streaky shooter who doesn't do much else.


Rudy Gobert, Utah Jazz

The Jazz gave up the 46th pick and cash to Denver to take the exceptionally long and thin Frenchman with the 27th pick. He looks good in layup lines, but there's no way he can play in the NBA for at least another couple of years. He can't score, and although he eventually could become a defensive presence, he doesn't have the strength to hold his ground in the paint right now.


Steven Adams, Oklahoma City Thunder

He has an NBA-ready body, but he's raw and will have trouble getting onto the court. He was erratic this past season at Pittsburgh and will have to learn to play with instincts. The good thing for OKC is that it doesn't really need Adams right now with the presence of Serge Ibaka.



Tony Snell, Chicago Bulls

I'm actually a fan of Snell, but it's going to be difficult for him to crack the rotation in Chicago -- especially with the emergence of Jimmy Butler this past season. Snell is long and can really shoot the ball, but he wasn't even the best shooter among Gar Forman's draft picks. That honor belongs to 6-10 second-rounder Erik Murphy. The Bulls can take their time in developing Snell, who needs to learn how to get by defenders and play with more intensity.

[Hayzoos]

As much as I think you suck as a poster, you always do a good job of not being sloppy when posting articles Kel. That's how it should be done right there.

[peanut butter]

But jay Bilas

I mean, he's got books to sell, so I get it. But still, no.


PEACE

I was being facetious.

I know



PEACE