The Hughes Brothers (Menace 2 Society, Dead presidents etc)

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:34 pm

So I'm a big fan, lets talk about their work

Menace 2 Society - A staple amongst the early 90's hood dramas. Up there with boyz n the hood? better/worse?

Dead President - very entertaining action/drama with some social themes. Some great acting, even in the smaller roles, from people who were virtually unknown at the time (Terrence Howard for example). Reminiscent of some of the better 'socially concious' action dramas of the 70's

Amerian Pimp - entertaining documentary which does a neat trick of simultaneously glorifying/appologizing for AND knocking down the pimp lifestyle. Interesting to note that this, along Pimp's Up Ho's Down (which i think actually shares some of the same footage) was made before the word pimp re-entered the mainstream vernacular in the way it's used now

From Hell - they got shitted on hard for this one, probably killed their carreer actually. I never thought it was that bad, it doesn't do justice to the graphic novel (which is more or less unfilmable as a feature anyway), just pure entertainment

discuss.....

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:37 pm

I like from hell....

RacquetballGangsta · Post by **RacquetballGangsta** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:46 pm

i loved menace and to this day will not watch boyz in the hood...never have seen it.

this post should be a hughes bros vs john singleton thread.

ps - american pimp is fantastic..i only saw it last year for the first time..i need to own it.

Rachel Hobozal · Post by **Rachel Hobozal** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:55 pm

Big fan as well, and they have great taste in music. At least I'm assuming it's them that played a big role in selecting the songs for the Menace II Society soundtrack as well as the Dead Presidents soundtrack.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:55 pm

drizzle wrote:So I'm a big fan, lets talk about their work

Menace 2 Society - A staple amongst the early 90's hood dramas. Up there with boyz n the hood? better/worse?

Clockers > all 90's hood dramas. I think Menace is better than Boyz n the Hood, although Charles Dutton's parts are rele corny.

Dead President - very entertaining action/drama with some social themes. Some great acting, even in the smaller roles, from people who were virtually unknown at the time (Terrence Howard for example). Reminiscent of some of the better 'socially concious' action dramas of the 70's

Agreed; very underrated flick. Never seen American Pimp or From Hell.

ThaJim2 · Post by **ThaJim2** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:05 pm

I can still watch Menace while i feel emberassed to watch Boyz well except when Rickey gets shot, that i could watch all day long. Big fan of Dead Presidents and American Pimps did not see From Hell.

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:55 pm

Menace > Clockers

I remember hearing how they ended up having some kind of a tussle with Pac relating to that movie. I think he wanted to star in it or something.

And yeah, From Hell was dope despite it straying from Moore's work. What else is new in that regard anyway?

The Drunken Poet · Post by **The Drunken Poet** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:26 pm

From Hell was shit, poorly acted, incoherent garbage... A shame compared to Moore's work.

But these guys still have something about them... I love me some Dead Presidents, a 'Nam film and a heist film in one, what more can ya ask!

Drizzle, you forgot to mention (understandably) the music videos they did for Korn.

Dids · Post by **Dids** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:00 pm

Interesting to note that this, along Pimp's Up Ho's Down (which i think actually shares some of the same footage) was made before the word pimp re-entered the mainstream vernacular in the way it's used now

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:44 pm

Great Black directors. I just didn't particularly like From Hell because it plodded along and had some boring bits. But the imagery and storyline were both good.

Seiko Flossberg · Post by **Seiko Flossberg** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:18 pm

RacquetballGangsta wrote:i loved menace and to this day will not watch boyz in the hood...never have seen it.

Why not?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:26 pm

Dids wrote:
Interesting to note that this, along Pimp's Up Ho's Down (which i think actually shares some of the same footage) was made before the word pimp re-entered the mainstream vernacular in the way it's used now

i'm alluding to the fact that this was before things like Pimp my ride, and the word pimp developing a widespread semi-positive connotation within the mainstream society alluding to wealth, which it has today.

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:06 pm

menace ii society shits all over clockers

Tariq's Dilemma · Post by **Tariq's Dilemma** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:15 pm

ackbar wrote:menace ii society shits all over clockers

Why is clockers always being brought up now, anyways?

American Pimp is great. The new movie from the office space guy even jacks a direct line from it that was used by scarface.

Raphael De La Ghetto · Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:49 pm

Tariq's Dilemma wrote:
ackbar wrote:menace ii society shits all over clockers
Why is clockers always being brought up now, anyways?

icesickle keeps bringing it up, saying it's Spike Lee's "crowning' achievement. Clockers is a 6/10 movie at best.
I also thought From Hell was good.

the brow · Post by **the brow** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:24 pm

Read Clockers. Watch Menace. You'll be much more satisfied.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:46 pm

never seen such a mediocre film (clockers) get such praise....

J Dub · Post by **J Dub** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:59 am

Trademark wrote:never seen such a mediocre film (clockers) get such praise....

it doesn't really, except from icesickle, his statement is sooooo controversial that it must be true, making all those who don't agree meathead douchebags. Or am i getting ahead of myself here?

Martin · Post by **Martin** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:12 am

i like clockers but its an entertaining movie. menace is like watching a documentary almost. just straight hood shit. menace > clockers.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:12 am

J Dub wrote:
Trademark wrote:never seen such a mediocre film (clockers) get such praise....
it doesn't really, except from icesickle, his statement is sooooo controversial that it must be true, making all those who don't agree meathead douchebags. Or am i getting ahead of myself here?

Can any of you meathead douchebags read? RBG is the one who says it's Spike's best film.

I think it's his 3rd best. I think it's better than Menace, which is a good film, and Boyz in the Hood, whose reputation has deteriorated more and more with each passing year. I brought it up in this thread because it's a "hood movie" like Menace. How you interpret that as "IT'S THE BEST MOVIE EVER DEWDS, WHOEVER DOESN'T LIKE IT IS A MEATHEAD DOUCHEBAG" is beyond me.

Coozy · Post by **Coozy** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:41 am

the brow wrote:Read Clockers. Watch Menace. You'll be much more satisfied.

Definite co-sign of this,
Spike Lee lost the message of the book when he made it to a movie,
Best thing to come outta this was the Return of the Crooklyn Dodgers

Menace is a 90's classic, plain and simple
From Hell lost the buzz they had completely though, next thing F Gary Gray became the next big black director

Tariq's Dilemma · Post by **Tariq's Dilemma** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:18 am

Icesickle wrote:
J Dub wrote:
Trademark wrote:never seen such a mediocre film (clockers) get such praise....
it doesn't really, except from icesickle, his statement is sooooo controversial that it must be true, making all those who don't agree meathead douchebags. Or am i getting ahead of myself here?
Can any of you meathead douchebags read? RBG is the one who says it's Spike's best film.

I think it's his 3rd best. I think it's better than Menace, which is a good film, and Boyz in the Hood, whose reputation has deteriorated more and more with each passing year. I brought it up in this thread because it's a "hood movie" like Menace. How you interpret that as "IT'S THE BEST MOVIE EVER DEWDS, WHOEVER DOESN'T LIKE IT IS A MEATHEAD DOUCHEBAG" is beyond me.

For the final time: Read clockers and you will understand what a terrible terrible job spike lee did with bringing it to the big screen.

The Hughes Brothers (Menace 2 Society, Dead presidents etc)

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