3:10 to Yuma might be....

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:19 am

the best movie I've seen this year.... It really is a shot of bourbon no chaser, a western with the plot of a John Ford film mixed with the grandness and over the top violence only offered in hollywood today... It stars two of the best actors alive playing off of each other like Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer, one the outlandish, showboat, troublemaker, the other not so much different but flies straight for reasons he doesn't quite understand himself, until the end. The third act is one of the best in recent memory, and I won't spoil it here but believe me most of you are going to love it... Armond White recently panned this film while praising the hell out of War so you know Icesickle will be in here dogging this... There is a great shootout at the end between Christian Bale and Russell Crowe's gang, during which the two have this moment that changes everything, An outlaw with nothing to lose and a rancher with just about everything to gain.....

overall just a really really great film that I immediately wanted to buy a ticket for and go back and watch the late show...

shazzb0t · Post by **shazzb0t** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:31 am

there isn't any of that 'slo mo' shit in this one is there?

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:45 am

shazz wrote:there isn't any of that 'slo mo' shit in this one is there?

WHAT IS "THAT" SLOW MO SHIT? I don't recall a single slow motion shot, but I might be mistaken, either way there obviously wasn't alot.... The only technical thing that kept bugging me is the same complaint I made about Walk the Line, the CLOSE UPS ARE INSUFFERABLY TO FUCKING CLOSE sometimes...

shazzb0t · Post by **shazzb0t** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:59 am

you know what i mean 'slo mo' shit.. like matrix shit..

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:05 am

shazz wrote:you know what i mean 'slo mo' shit.. like matrix shit..

it's a western homie...

HopeLess · Post by **HopeLess** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:30 am

Trademark wrote:
shazz wrote:you know what i mean 'slo mo' shit.. like matrix shit..

it's a western homie...

yeah, but sadly, i think that's a valid question considering the state of film's with shootouts nowadays.

Seiko Flossberg · Post by **Seiko Flossberg** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:37 am

Trademark wrote:
shazz wrote:you know what i mean 'slo mo' shit.. like matrix shit..

it's a western homie...

lol

Truth. · Post by **Truth.** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:00 pm

shazz wrote:there isn't any of that 'slo mo' shit in this one is there?

ya there's a bullet time scene at the very end.

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:03 pm

action scenes were really dope. thematically the movie didn't quite come together.

spoiler...
how gay was that one dude for russel crowe it was hilarious

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:42 pm

EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:action scenes were really dope. thematically the movie didn't quite come together.

spoiler...
how gay was that one dude for russel crowe it was hilarious

SPOILER:

Like when Russel Crowe finally decides to help Christian Bale and they are running on the rooftops and he is screaming Boss, just duck, boss just...Boss? He was very gay.... but put in a GREAT performance that kid has played two VERY intense roles and nailed them both...

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:15 pm

CAN YOU GO 2 POSTS WITHOUT MENTIONING ME?

StormShadow · Post by **StormShadow** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:24 pm

Man, Armond White liked War? I hate that faggot

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:45 am

StormShadow wrote:Man, Armond White liked War? I hate that faggot

If I'm not mistaken he called it a masterpiece of genre filmmaking....I hate him as well....

and Icesickle, I go weeks without mentioning you unless it is relevant... I recently read armond white's review of this film and expected you to fall in line with your hero, that is all.... Seriously in the last two weeks I probably have over 200 posts and maybe 2 mention you, maybe.... don't flatter yourself it's sad..

Andvil · Post by **Andvil** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:53 pm

it was a really good movie, but I don't think I liked it nearly as much as you did

Captin Planit · Post by **Captin Planit** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:19 am

I'm glad I read only the first sentence of your post before I watched this. Otherwise, it would've ruined a lot of the emotional surprise. You ambiguously give away basically the final movement of this movie.

But yeah, that first sentence was all I needed, and I loved it.

My girl said, "That's probably one of my top 50 movies ever now," and I

'd before I tripped her in front of a group of merciless moviegoers.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:21 am

Captin Planit wrote:I'm glad I read only the first sentence of your post before I watched this. Otherwise, it would've ruined a lot of the emotional surprise. You ambiguously give away basically the final movement of this movie.

But yeah, that first sentence was all I needed, and I loved it.

My girl said, "That's probably one of my top 50 movies ever now," and I 'd before I tripped her in front of a group of merciless moviegoers.

but unless you saw the movie you would have no fucking clue what I was talking about...

Captin Planit · Post by **Captin Planit** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:28 am

Trademark wrote:but unless you saw the movie you would have no fucking clue what I was talking about...

I read it like a trailer that gives you too much. You didn't ruin anything in particular, but I would've been waiting for the anticipated moment of change.

Regardless, I'm supersensitive about shit like that, and I like to go into a movie like I've been blindfolded for the past several months and barely recognize the lead actors.

I didn't say, "Change that post, homie," I said, "I'm glad I didn't read it."

Not to mention you were spot-on with your assessment. So take it easy.

richard lamplighter · Post by **richard lamplighter** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:21 pm

this was a pretty good movie, thought people might be talking about it more.

ending was the best part, some of the shit beforehand was a little slow, or not entirely convincing, perhaps a little too simple, but it was never not enjoyable.

it's cool to see a western these days. i don't know too much about them outside of seeing a few movies here & there but i want to get into both western films & novels/stories. this was based on a short story, i think.

FreshShabazz · Post by **FreshShabazz** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:24 pm

Okay movie...

I never really bought Russle Crowe's change of heart... which is a pretty big plot-point not to buy.

slimebucato · Post by **slimebucato** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:18 am

There really should be spoiler warnings just like NSFW warnings, although I guess it should be a given. I feel bad for anyone coming in here reading this stuff by accident just trying to get a general feel for how good the movie is.

There could have been more development leading up to the ending. Still a really good movie though, one of the best I've seen all year. Russel Crowe and Bale both impressed me.

RacquetballGangsta · Post by **RacquetballGangsta** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:07 am

FreshShabazz wrote:Okay movie...

I never really bought Russle Crowe's change of heart... which is a pretty big plot-point not to buy.

my feelings exactly

poopie boy · Post by **poopie boy** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:29 pm

This was a very dope movie, but I can see why some people say there were holes in the plot.. There definitely were some loose ends that could have came together better. But the acting in this movie was insanely good.

Best character evolution: Ben Wade (at least for the first 9/10ths of the movie)

Best line: The song about being hung in the morning

Best kill: Charlie's "Are you guys a posse?... I hate posses" part.

Most ignorantly entertaining part of the whole movie: The horse that explodes during the scene when they are robbing the Pinkerton's carriage

StormShadow · Post by **StormShadow** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:14 am

I liked this

Regarding Russel Crowe at the end

I had no problem with Ben Wade's 'change' because I didn't see it as a change. He always respected Bale. Wanted to do right by his family. Besides, he was never gonna stay in the prison, he was scheming to get out as the train pulled away by calling for his horse. And shooting his gang, well, I figure he outgrew them. And besides Ben Foster they weren't the most loyal bunch to begin with. Basically Wade inconvenienced himself temporarily in order in order to help out a guy he respected.

boogie shoes · Post by **boogie shoes** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:30 am

started out great ended up shit

RacquetballGangsta · Post by **RacquetballGangsta** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:33 pm

StormShadow wrote:I liked this

Regarding Russel Crowe at the end

I had no problem with Ben Wade's 'change' because I didn't see it as a change. He always respected Bale. Wanted to do right by his family. Besides, he was never gonna stay in the prison, he was scheming to get out as the train pulled away by calling for his horse. And shooting his gang, well, I figure he outgrew them. And besides Ben Foster they weren't the most loyal bunch to begin with. Basically Wade inconvenienced himself temporarily in order in order to help out a guy he respected.

yeah i can sorta see that. but the thing is i just wasnt buying a lot of the character in the first place...i laughed at him explaining how he read the bible in three days and his momma never came back and all this...

dude's whole shit was psychological, so ur gonna tell me a dude like this is gonna spill his guts to his captors, even those he "respects"? just lil things like that i thought were weird and out of character

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:26 pm

FreshShabazz wrote:Okay movie...

I never really bought Russle Crowe's change of heart... which is a pretty big plot-point not to buy.

yeah that part wasn't given effective treatment. i get the feeling that it wasn't supposed to be a change of heart so much as a rethinking of his cold rationale for crime, but even so it wasn't pulled off very smoothly...

StormShadow · Post by **StormShadow** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:30 pm

RacquetballGangsta wrote:
StormShadow wrote:I liked this

Regarding Russel Crowe at the end

I had no problem with Ben Wade's 'change' because I didn't see it as a change. He always respected Bale. Wanted to do right by his family. Besides, he was never gonna stay in the prison, he was scheming to get out as the train pulled away by calling for his horse. And shooting his gang, well, I figure he outgrew them. And besides Ben Foster they weren't the most loyal bunch to begin with. Basically Wade inconvenienced himself temporarily in order in order to help out a guy he respected.

yeah i can sorta see that. but the thing is i just wasnt buying a lot of the character in the first place...i laughed at him explaining how he read the bible in three days and his momma never came back and all this...

dude's whole shit was psychological, so ur gonna tell me a dude like this is gonna spill his guts to his captors, even those he "respects"? just lil things like that i thought were weird and out of character

Fair enough, I can understand that.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:04 pm

but it never was a change of heart or a change of character. He wanted Bale to escape from the get go, he respected him from the moment Bale demanded more money for his cattle in the saloon after the heist. Then after he met his wife and family he realized they are one in the same they just chose different paths in life. Then at the end when you think it is a "change of character" it isn't, it is Crowe saying "come on, you can still live, just let me go out there, it's over and done." Then Bale basically tells him, look if I don't get you on that train I might as well not live...Then Crowe is like fuck it let's go....

RacquetballGangsta · Post by **RacquetballGangsta** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:13 pm

i just miss the bona fide bad guys who really bear out the adage that there is no honor among thieves...i hated that when the kid said "you're not all bad", he wasnt wrong...its just cheesy to me. that fruedian bullshit, "gee u have a woman whos a good wife and mother, im so fucked up cuz my mom left me with a bible in my hand when i was 8" shit is gay.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:20 pm

RacquetballGangsta wrote:i just miss the bona fide bad guys who really bear out the adage that there is no honor among thieves...i hated that when the kid said "you're not all bad", he wasnt wrong...its just cheesy to me. that fruedian bullshit, "gee u have a woman whos a good wife and mother, im so fucked up cuz my mom left me with a bible in my hand when i was 8" shit is gay.

lol. word.

written any poems lately?