ROUND 3: Taxi Driver vs. Do The Right Thing

cascarrabias · Post by **cascarrabias** » Wed May 23, 2007 10:34 am

Or

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:11 am

I've voted against Do the Right thing this entire tournament...but right now I think I'm going to have to go w/ DTRT....

admiral · Post by **admiral** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:14 am

Martin Lawrence was in DTRT, while he did not make an apperance in Taxi Driver

DTRT

adverse · Post by **adverse** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:34 am

Taxi Driver

eris · Post by **eris** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:26 pm

adverse wrote:Taxi Driver

Seiko Flossberg · Post by **Seiko Flossberg** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:27 pm

eris wrote:
adverse wrote:Taxi Driver

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:34 pm

RacquetballGangsta · Post by **RacquetballGangsta** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:35 pm

what is the obsession with taxi driver? i really dont get it. its definitely not a BAD movie by any stretch..but what the hell...its not THAT great either.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:35 pm

RacquetballGangsta wrote:what is the obsession with taxi driver? i really dont get it. its definitely not a BAD movie by any stretch..but what the hell...its not THAT great either.

but Fight The Power was in DTRW, so which way are you voting?

StormShadow · Post by **StormShadow** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:40 pm

Surprisingly to me, I voted Do the Right Thing

RacquetballGangsta · Post by **RacquetballGangsta** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:47 pm

Philaflava wrote:
RacquetballGangsta wrote:what is the obsession with taxi driver? i really dont get it. its definitely not a BAD movie by any stretch..but what the hell...its not THAT great either.
but Fight The Power was in DTRW, so which way are you voting?

har har. an overrated song in a slighly overrated movie. still better than taxi driver!

arlene · Post by **arlene** » Wed May 23, 2007 1:02 pm

taxi driver

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:09 pm

RacquetballGangsta wrote:what is the obsession with taxi driver? i really dont get it. its definitely not a BAD movie by any stretch..but what the hell...its not THAT great either.

People overrate it because of its subject matter. It also gets overrated by anti-social, borderline sociopaths...and we're on the internet; so.... It's a great film, but it's not in Scorcese's top 3 (not even touching Goodfellas or Raging Bull).

Do The Right Thing is a landmark film. It's a relevant today as it was back then. It doesn't feel dated at all, whereas Taxi Driver doesn't feel that fresh or relevant anymore. There's only about 3 films left in this poll I'd consider voting for over it, and I'd have trouble doing it because I don't think any of those has as much to say about contemporary America. It also has the one of the most, if not the most, visceral / powerful endings out of any film I've ever seen.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Wed May 23, 2007 2:09 pm

B1ack pe0plez r001z.

Vote : Do The Right Thing.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:12 pm

I Drive A Lexus wrote:B1ack pe0plez r001z.

Vote : Do The Right Thing.

Real recognize rele or something.

If it would have been up against King of Comedy I would of had a much tougher time deciding.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Wed May 23, 2007 2:13 pm

Ithithkle wrote:People overrate it because of its subject matter. It also gets overrated by anti-social, borderline sociopaths...and we're on the internet; so.... It's a great film, but it's not in Scorcese's top 3 (not even touching Goodfellas or Raging Bull).

The bolded part sez hello mr. pot, i'm mr. kettle but basically yer right here. No shit it isn't top 3, though. It isn't even a top 6 Scorsese flick.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:15 pm

I Drive A Lexus wrote:
Ithithkle wrote:People overrate it because of its subject matter. It also gets overrated by anti-social, borderline sociopaths...and we're on the internet; so.... It's a great film, but it's not in Scorcese's top 3 (not even touching Goodfellas or Raging Bull).
The bolded part sez hello mr. pot, i'm mr. kettle but basically yer right here. No shit it isn't top 3, though. It isn't even a top 6 Scorsese flick.

Uh, I'm not anti-social at all. And your confused Bad Boy streetball playing closet racist ass has a lot more sociopathic tendencies than me hoss.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Wed May 23, 2007 2:19 pm

"I'm only like this on the internet because i'm shy, because i have difficulties talking to my friends and because all the negative attention feeds my self loathing, man!".

I'm not racist.

Smithee · Post by **Smithee** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:53 pm

i say do the the right thizzle....

ThaJim2 · Post by **ThaJim2** » Wed May 23, 2007 7:10 pm

RacquetballGangsta wrote:what is the obsession with taxi driver? i really dont get it. its definitely not a BAD movie by any stretch..but what the hell...its not THAT great either.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Wed May 23, 2007 7:13 pm

LOL @ this movie winning and Cas hating it.

btw, i vote for DTRT

btown · Post by **btown** » Thu May 24, 2007 4:43 am

LOL at evaluating at a film on how socially relevant it is today. (Drizzle made fun of this earlier so I don't have to.) Marty isn't even my favorite director AND I didn't have Scarface stills plastered on my dormroom walls, but Taxi Driver still wins this poll.

Let it be known that I'm a big fan of DTRT but to say that Taxi Driver isn't a top 3 Scorsese film is ludicrous. Top 3 Marty is Goodfellas, Raging Bull and Taxi Driver. KoC is a stellar film but to say that only idealistic pre-emptory Miami-bred faggots who only count money and are fans of gangster-only-Scorcese would vote for Taxi Driver is the opinion of reactionary, hyperbolic, anti-social faggots from DC. Lexus' comparison was spot on.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Thu May 24, 2007 9:36 am

btown wrote:LOL at evaluating at a film on how socially relevant it is today. (Drizzle made fun of this earlier so I don't have to.) Marty isn't even my favorite director AND I didn't have Scarface stills plastered on my dormroom walls, but Taxi Driver still wins this poll.

It's not just socially relevant, it's artistically relevant. Taxi Driver's dated; DTRT is still fresh. And art can be important because of its social relevance. Uncle Tom's Cabin isn't a great book in and of itself, its great because of its a milestone of social protest. DTRT is in that same category, but its also a milestone film from an artistic standpoint as well.

Let it be known that I'm a big fan of DTRT but to say that Taxi Driver isn't a top 3 Scorsese film is ludicrous. Top 3 Marty is Goodfellas, Raging Bull and Taxi Driver.

No, but how's that that kool aid taste?

KoC is a stellar film but to say that only idealistic pre-emptory Miami-bred faggots who only count money and are fans of gangster-only-Scorcese would vote for Taxi Driver is the opinion of reactionary, hyperbolic, anti-social faggots from DC. Lexus' comparison was spot on.

Did I say that everyone that voted for Taxi Driver fitted into that category? And while JBL cracked jokes, he said "but basically yer right here." Learn how to read.

cascarrabias · Post by **cascarrabias** » Thu May 24, 2007 9:59 am

btown wrote:LOL at evaluating at a film on how socially relevant it is today. (Drizzle made fun of this earlier so I don't have to.) Marty isn't even my favorite director AND I didn't have Scarface stills plastered on my dormroom walls, but Taxi Driver still wins this poll.

Let it be known that I'm a big fan of DTRT but to say that Taxi Driver isn't a top 3 Scorsese film is ludicrous. Top 3 Marty is Goodfellas, Raging Bull and Taxi Driver. KoC is a stellar film but to say that only idealistic pre-emptory Miami-bred faggots who only count money and are fans of gangster-only-Scorcese would vote for Taxi Driver is the opinion of reactionary, hyperbolic, anti-social faggots from DC. Lexus' comparison was spot on.

BAM

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:31 am

Icesickle wrote: Taxi Driver's dated

tell that to every motherfucker who shoots a reflection of a red light on wet concrete, uses ambiguous dream sequences, or makes movies about alienated loners. NOBODY does that AT ALL these days, nada

Sarcasm aside, alienation (especially the kind that ends in violence), can never be dated - it's a universal theme in cinema since the first shots were put to stock, and it will still be around when people are dowloading 3d holograms about shit to their frontal lobes, because it's part of the human condition (big emo

for me on this one). There will ALWAYS be people who feel they don't fit into the society around them, and will in responce lash out at that society in retribution.

DTRT on the other hand captures a culturally specific moment in time, a time capsule - something that by its very definition stands to loose impact on the viewer as time goes on. Would you pick DTRT if you weren't a culturally aware hiphop fan living in the late 20th/early 21st? There's no doubt that 20/30 years from now it will still be a powerful film, in the way that anything dealing with WW2 atrocities is still powerful now - but can you honestly say Schindler's list has the same impact on you as it does on somebody who lived throught he holocaust?

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:40 am

drizzle wrote:
Icesickle wrote: Taxi Driver's dated
tell that to every motherfucker who shoots a reflection of a red light on wet concrete, uses ambiguous dream sequences, or makes movies about alienated loners. NOBODY does that AT ALL these days, nada

Sarcasm aside, alienation (especially the kind that ends in violence), can never be dated - it's a universal theme in cinema since the first shots were put to stock, and it will still be around when people are dowloading 3d holograms about shit to their frontal lobes, because it's part of the human condition (big emo for me on this one). There will ALWAYS be people who feel they don't fit into the society around them, and will in responce lash out at that society in retribution.

It's themes aren't dated; the movie looks dated. And if I want a movie about alienated loners I'll take King of Comedy. Much more nuanced performance by DeNiro, a better script, better direction, and it holds up better with time.

DTRT on the other hand captures a culturally specific moment in time, a time capsule - something that by its very definition stands to loose impact on the viewer as time goes on. Would you pick DTRT if you weren't a culturally aware hiphop fan living in the late 20th/early 21st? There's no doubt that 20/30 years from now it will still be a powerful film, in the way that anything dealing with WW2 atrocities is still powerful now - but can you honestly say Schindler's list has the same impact on you as it does on somebody who lived throught he holocaust?

Racial animosity in America is a "culturally specific moment"? As long as America is multicultural these problems will always exist, albeit in different forms and to varying degrees.

And DTRT was made BEFORE the LA Riots, not after them.

gordon geico · Post by **gordon geico** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:55 am

fucking white anglo saxon protestants.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 24, 2007 11:00 am

^^^ again, you're putting emphasis on 'importance' over anything else. Yes, racial tension will always exist in america, no denying that at all. But it doesn't validate the movie. But you can make Taxi Driver anywhere in the world in almost any time period, and it would still have the same impact. If DTRT was not set in brooklyn in the late 80's, would it still be the same?

I wont even bother with the dated look shit, by this logic any black and white movie is worthless. Then again, I am talking to somebody who automatically dismisses anything before 1960.

All this makes it look like i'm bashing DTRT and that's not the case, it is a very good movie, and not just on the level of social themes - there's some incredible acting, it's got a great visual style, obv excellent soundtrack selection which is exteremely important to a movie like this. However in the grand scheme of things, I feel Taxi Driver is superior

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Thu May 24, 2007 11:00 am

reactionary, hyperbolic, anti-social faggots from rural Virginia

cascarrabias · Post by **cascarrabias** » Thu May 24, 2007 11:11 am

Why does anyone take Icesickle posts seriously?