F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Smooth Lou · Post by **Smooth Lou** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:15 pm

That's the hexidecimal code that can be used to hack into nearly any HD-DVD player out there today. What's it for?

wirednews.com wrote:That's the so-called "Processing Key" that unlocks the heart of every HD-DVD disk to date. Happy Valentine's day, AACS.

AACS, a DRM scheme used to encrypt data on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray disks, would appear to be cracked wide open by that short string of hexadecimal codes, as previously, only disk-specific Volume Keys were compromised. The new hack is the work of Arnezami, a hacker posting at the doom9 forums, fast becoming the front line in the war on DRM.

"The AACS is investigating the claims right regarding of the hack," said AACS spokesporson Jacqueline Price. "It is going to take a appropriate action if it can be verified."

Price said she could not disclose what their investigation might entail, or what "appropriate action" might be.

גWeגve just learned of this claim today and are checking into it,ג said Andy Parsons, chair of the Blu-ray Disc Association and senior V.P. of product development at Pioneer Electronics, in an email.

The new crack follows that from earlier this year, when a hacker by the name of muslix64 broke the AACS system as it applied to each movie. While the earlier hack led to 100 HD-DVD titles and a small number of Blu-Ray movies being decrypted one-by-one, the so-called "processing keys" covers everything so far made.:

"Most of the time I spend studying the AACS papers," Arnezami said in his forum post revealing the successful assault on the next-gen DRM system. "... what I wanted to do is "record" all changes in this part of memory during startup of the movie. Hopefully I would catch something insteresting. ... I now had the feeling I had something. And I did. ... Nothing was hacked, cracked or even reverse engineered btw: I only had to watch the "show" in my own memory. No debugger was used, no binaries changed."

It's not yet clear what it means for the consumer's ability to copy movies, or, for that matter, that of mass-market piracy operations. The short form is that the user still needs a disk's volume ID to deploy the processing key and break the AACS encryption ג but getting the ID is surprisingly easy.

Arnezami found that they are not even random, but often obvious to the point of foolishness: one movie's Volume ID turns out to be it's own name and the date it was released. There isn't yet an automatic system, however, that will copy any disk, in the manner of DeCSS-based DVD copying systems.

Even so, the new method completely compromises HD-DVD in principle, as it relies on AACS alone to encrypt data, even if there are other parts of the puzzle that are yet to fit together. Blu-Ray has two more levels of protection: ROM-MARK (a per factory watermark, which might revoke mass production rights from a factory but not, it seems individuals) and BD+, another encyption system, which hasn't actually been used yet on sold disks (but which soon will be), meaning that its own status seems less obviously compromised.

How might the companies respond? The processing key can now be changed for future disks. However, the flaws inherent in the system make it appear easy to discover the replacement: the method of attack itself will be hard to offset without causing knock-on effects. For example, revoking player keys (in advance of obfuscating the keys in memory in future revisions of the system) would render current players unable to view future movies. Revoking the volume and processing keys that have been hacked would mean that all movies to date would not run on new players.

Publishers could randomly generate Volume IDs in future releases (as they are still needed for the current hack to work), which would make them harder to brute-force. That said, it's claimed that the "specific structure" of the Volume ID in memory makes it feasible to brute-force randomized ones anyway.

Following are links to the current discussion at the doom9 forums, in which Arnezami and other provide regular updates on their progress. We don't offer any warantee that the software implementations so far produced won't blow up your computer or get you thrown in jail and whipped with wet towels by MPAA lawyers:

Proof of concept code for the process key hack is here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... post953484

Implementation for Windows: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... post953496

Implementation for OSX: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... post953516

Thought some of you techies might enjoy knowing this. I'm not entirely clear as to who this will benefit seeing as most people do not have an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray drive.

slimebucato · Post by **slimebucato** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:21 pm

Haha.

It seems there is always some hacker out there that outsmarts everyone.

Smooth Lou · Post by **Smooth Lou** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:26 pm

This is HUGE news over at Digg and other bookmark sites because the creators of HD-DVD are fucking furious and are making any website with this info take it down. Digg especially is not only erasing all stories linking to this nefarious hex code, they are also banning users for posting it.

With that said, our good friends at YTMND have this to say:

http://hddvd.ytmnd.com/

Smooth Lou · Post by **Smooth Lou** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:31 pm

deviant art has also taken down screensavers and artwork relating to this number. Very bizarre.

Smooth Lou · Post by **Smooth Lou** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:33 pm

and of course, there's this website:

http://09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63.com/

how long before it gets taken down? Hmm...

NovaLux · Post by **NovaLux** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:34 pm

It makes me a little happy anyway, though. I anticipate with interest the day they realize they cannot win this war and make everything the way it used to be. I imagine (essentially) future Hiro Nakamura watching over the world, his katana a shining beacon of hope, symbolic of diligent hackers everywhere.

Kalel · Post by **Kalel** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:54 pm

NovaLux wrote:It makes me a little happy anyway, though. I anticipate with interest the day they realize they cannot win this war and make everything the way it used to be. I imagine (essentially) future Hiro Nakamura watching over the world, his katana a shining beacon of hope, symbolic of diligent hackers everywhere.

You just made every geek out there a fan of yours.

I'm actually getting kinda annoyed with all the hacking of software, hardware and what not. It's this type of shit that makes the developers have to tighten up restrictions, limit fair use, and stop giving out licenses to 3rd parties.

Just let certain things work the way they are designed to. What do you really need with a HD movie on your computer anyway?

Smooth Lou · Post by **Smooth Lou** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:57 pm

NovaLux wrote:It makes me a little happy anyway, though. I anticipate with interest the day they realize they cannot win this war and make everything the way it used to be. I imagine (essentially) future Hiro Nakamura watching over the world, his katana a shining beacon of hope, symbolic of diligent hackers everywhere.

But if future angry Hiro exists, that means Ando is dead! AND I CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN.

Also:

Those fucking Swedes are the best.

Kalistoga · Post by **Kalistoga** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:53 am

so what does this code do? im not sure I understand the importance of it....

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:47 am

Kalistoga Von Fretmeyer wrote:so what does this code do? im not sure I understand the importance of it....

ThaJim2 · Post by **ThaJim2** » Wed May 02, 2007 8:23 am

Kalistoga Von Fretmeyer wrote:so what does this code do? im not sure I understand the importance of it....

It allows asshole hackers to steal intellectual property under the guise of "fair use". This leads to the owners of the IP to crack down on all users and those that don't steal loose features.

Russian · Post by **Russian** » Wed May 02, 2007 8:25 am

ThaJim2 wrote:
Kalistoga Von Fretmeyer wrote:so what does this code do? im not sure I understand the importance of it....
It allows asshole hackers to steal intellectual property under the guise of "fair use". This leads to the owners of the IP to crack down on all users and those that don't steal loose features.

what do you mean "fair use?"

Smooth Lou · Post by **Smooth Lou** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:29 am

ThaJim2 wrote:
Kalistoga Von Fretmeyer wrote:so what does this code do? im not sure I understand the importance of it....
It allows asshole hackers to steal intellectual property under the guise of "fair use". This leads to the owners of the IP to crack down on all users and those that don't steal loose features.

the wired article wrote:It's not yet clear what it means for the consumer's ability to copy movies, or, for that matter, that of mass-market piracy operations.

You are I will not really be able to use this, but one could conceivably hack into one's High Definition DVD drive and make pirated movies by using this code.

ThaJim2 · Post by **ThaJim2** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:54 am

Russian wrote:
ThaJim2 wrote:
Kalistoga Von Fretmeyer wrote:so what does this code do? im not sure I understand the importance of it....
It allows asshole hackers to steal intellectual property under the guise of "fair use". This leads to the owners of the IP to crack down on all users and those that don't steal loose features.
what do you mean "fair use?"

You have the theoretical legal right to have a back up copy or to download your cd to a mp3 player. The hackers/pirates claim that they are only breaking DRM for these legitimate reason but in reality most of them are knowingly breaking copyright laws.

Honestly any argument you hear against DRM is the equivalent of a car thief bitching about Vipers

Smooth Lou · Post by **Smooth Lou** » Wed May 02, 2007 12:58 pm

ThaJim2 wrote:
Russian wrote:what do you mean "fair use?"
You have the theoretical legal right to have a back up copy or to download your cd to a mp3 player. The hackers/pirates claim that they are only breaking DRM for these legitimate reason but in reality most of them are knowingly breaking copyright laws.

Honestly any argument you hear against DRM is the equivalent of a car thief bitching about Vipers

Here's my Anti-DRM stance.

It is discrimination against early adopters, and for the most part, it is anti-consumer.

If you buy a CD, you can play it on any CD player in the universe.

If you rip a CD to your computer, you can play it on your computer, on your iPod, on your Palm Pilot, on your PSP, on your fucking George Forman iGrill, etc. etc. etc.

If you buy a CD's worth of songs from most online music sites, you can only use it on your computer or on one specific device. This is retarded.

And as for DVDs? If you want to watch a movie on your PSP or your iPod, the corporations want you to buy that bad boy on a DVD to watch it at home and spend the extra $10 to download it to your iPod or an extra $25 to buy a UMD.

How can you defend either of these examples ThaJim?

I have no qualms about using grey market software such as Handbrake or WinAVI to remove the DRM from my DVDs (That I own) and watch them on my portable devices.

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Wed May 02, 2007 8:51 pm

Off topic, but important.

Kalistoga Von Fretmeyer wrote:

Who is this chick?

Smooth Lou · Post by **Smooth Lou** » Wed May 02, 2007 10:35 pm

Combo7 wrote:Off topic, but important.

Kalistoga Von Fretmeyer wrote:

Who is this chick?

First Asian Victoria's Secret Model.

ThaJim2 · Post by **ThaJim2** » Thu May 03, 2007 7:50 am

Smooth Lou wrote:
ThaJim2 wrote:
Russian wrote:what do you mean "fair use?"
You have the theoretical legal right to have a back up copy or to download your cd to a mp3 player. The hackers/pirates claim that they are only breaking DRM for these legitimate reason but in reality most of them are knowingly breaking copyright laws.

Honestly any argument you hear against DRM is the equivalent of a car thief bitching about Vipers
Here's my Anti-DRM stance.

It is discrimination against early adopters, and for the most part, it is anti-consumer.

If you buy a CD, you can play it on any CD player in the universe.

If you rip a CD to your computer, you can play it on your computer, on your iPod, on your Palm Pilot, on your PSP, on your fucking George Forman iGrill, etc. etc. etc.

If you buy a CD's worth of songs from most online music sites, you can only use it on your computer or on one specific device. This is retarded.

And as for DVDs? If you want to watch a movie on your PSP or your iPod, the corporations want you to buy that bad boy on a DVD to watch it at home and spend the extra $10 to download it to your iPod or an extra $25 to buy a UMD.

How can you defend either of these examples ThaJim?

I have no qualms about using grey market software such as Handbrake or WinAVI to remove the DRM from my DVDs (That I own) and watch them on my portable devices.

I can defend both of these because for every one person that uses this for a legal reason their is 25 that use it to steal IP. The rise of the internet and new techonlogy has fundementaly changed the field of IP and the fair use exception needs to change. It would be nice if i did not have to pay for a HD-DVD or a DVD that i own which replaced a VHS but them the breaks the license i bought only gave me the right to use it on a specific platform.

readyrock · Post by **readyrock** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:58 am

DRM is ridiculous.

Sigma · Post by **Sigma** » Thu May 03, 2007 12:11 pm

I can defend both of these because for every one person that uses this for a legal reason their is 25 that use it to steal IP.

That may be true, but DRM hasn't stopped people stealing IP and IMO it never will, so you could argue that while DRM has no real effect in the pirates, it does affect what legitimate buyers can do with the files they've paid for.

It would be nice if i did not have to pay for a HD-DVD or a DVD that i own which replaced a VHS but them the breaks the license i bought only gave me the right to use it on a specific platform.

I don't think the consumer should have to pay twice when certain formats are designed to co-exist, like vinyl & tape, CDs & MP3s. DVD was designed as a replacement for VHS - it's far superior, so you wouldn't expect free ugrades.

ThaJim2 · Post by **ThaJim2** » Thu May 03, 2007 12:39 pm

Sigma wrote:
I can defend both of these because for every one person that uses this for a legal reason their is 25 that use it to steal IP.
That may be true, but DRM hasn't stopped people stealing IP and IMO it never will, so you could argue that while DRM has no real effect in the pirates, it does affect what legitimate buyers can do with the files they've paid for.

This is the worst argument from the anti-DRM side. You might as well say why lock your car door since a car theif is just going to break the window or Might as well sit back and enjoy the rape if you cant fight them off.

It would be nice if i did not have to pay for a HD-DVD or a DVD that i own which replaced a VHS but them the breaks the license i bought only gave me the right to use it on a specific platform.
I don't think the consumer should have to pay twice when certain formats are designed to co-exist, like vinyl & tape, CDs & MP3s. DVD was designed as a replacement for VHS - it's far superior, so you wouldn't expect free ugrades.

If you want this ability you should support the DRM of both HDdvd and BluRay as both allow the copyright holder to give the right for a consumer to move the file across the network. If their is no DRM the studios would never release HDTV films.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Thu May 03, 2007 2:58 pm

Smooth Lou wrote:
Combo7 wrote:Off topic, but important.

Kalistoga Von Fretmeyer wrote:

Who is this chick?
First Asian Victoria's Secret Model.

LOL I asked this same exact question in another thread, looking at her is life changing...

Sigma · Post by **Sigma** » Thu May 03, 2007 4:26 pm

This is the worst argument from the anti-DRM side. You might as well say why lock your car door since a car theif is just going to break the window or Might as well sit back and enjoy the rape if you cant fight them off.

I don't think it's the worst argument. If I had a skeleton key that could open any car door, then it would make no difference whether you locked it or not. You might get new locks fitted, but a week later I make a new key and so on. DRM is literally that ineffective IMO.

If you want this ability you should support the DRM of both HDdvd and BluRay as both allow the copyright holder to give the right for a consumer to move the file across the network. If their is no DRM the studios would never release HDTV films.

What purpose does the DRM serve considering I can already download programs like this to remove the encryption from both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs?

http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html

Torrent sites will be flooded with HD rips sooner or later, so people who want to download movies will continue to do so, and people that want to buy them will continue to be restricted by a technology that serves very little purpose.