Fat Joe "represent" vs "jealous ones envy

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:28 pm

The topic stems from the O.C. argument people were having about which was better, word...life or jewelz. Both these fat joe albums were near classic or classic albums in some peoples minds. When i first heard J.O.E. i liked it better than "represent" but have since changed my mind. Represent is grimier and features classic production from DITC legends like showbiz, lord finesse and Diamond D. I dont skip any tracks maby except for "shorty gotta fat ass". My fav track off represent would have to be " another wild nigga from the bronx". J.O.E. had a lot of wicked tracks too but wasnt as rugged at represent IMO. Primo laced a couple of tracks. The "Firewater" would have made J.O.E. classic.

Discuss

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:45 pm

What's to discuss? Represent was incredible, from bangers like Flow Joe, one of the most grimy evil posse cuts with Kool G Rap and Apache laced by Diamond D and Shorty Gotta Fat Ass is hardly skippable material, I find it dope. That's not to dismiss J.O.E since thats still a great album but his debut surpasses it.

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:15 pm

I kno a few people who prefer JOE over Represent so i was wondering what the philaflava community thinks about it.

Menace To Sobriety · Post by **Menace To Sobriety** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:00 am

'Represent' is the only Fat Joe I have in my collection

and it still gets play, some classic DITC production on there

yeah, I got this in smash ... so what's up, so what's up

clark bent · Post by **clark bent** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:16 am

represent is clearly better

flow joe drums=

ditc production on represent is classic but yall are sleeping on the beatnut contributions to this record...they did the dopest shit

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:44 am

I prefer "j.o.e" personally
"represent" has some fine tracks but it's patchy.

"J.o.e" i can listen to most all the way through aside from the track that samples "sexual healing" (although that "jingle jewels in the faces of past enemies, eat yer heart out, son, you never was a friend of me" line is ill) and the shitty, pointless remix of "success".

Joe got Armageddon ghost-writing for him on "j.o.e" so it's lyrically better
and the beats were a step in a different moodier direction with a lot of Axelrod loops
some of the most slept-on Diamond D beats you'll ever hear with "bronx tale", "respect mine" and "watch out"
Joe and Krs talkin' shit and passin' the mic on "bronx tale"
the bananas Pun debut verse on "watch out" with Keith Nut reppin' too
dope Domingo production like "say word" and "success"
and the incredible Primo remix of "shit is real".

JERRY JULIANO · Post by **JERRY JULIANO** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:36 pm

i gotta say JOE. This is when fat joe came back strong as fuck and u could tell his rhymes were alot nicer.

Represent was my shit tho for sure, i love that album. Shit is real Premier remix is one of my favorite tracks/videos.

vinylfiend · Post by **vinylfiend** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:44 pm

clark bent wrote:represent is clearly better

flow joe drums=

ditc production on represent is classic but yall are sleeping on the beatnut contributions to this record...they did the dopest shit

Yea the beatnuts remixed "watch the sound" and the remix only made it to a b side on vinyl. ONe of my all time favorite remixes fa sho!

ScholarWenis · Post by **ScholarWenis** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:16 pm

J.O.E. for me......I mean, those beats were just ...!

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:16 pm

vinylfiend wrote:
clark bent wrote:represent is clearly better

flow joe drums=

ditc production on represent is classic but yall are sleeping on the beatnut contributions to this record...they did the dopest shit
Yea the beatnuts remixed "watch the sound" and the remix only made it to a b side on vinyl. ONe of my all time favorite remixes fa sho!

YES. That remix is crazy

Sensasianal · Post by **Sensasianal** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:58 pm

clark bent wrote:represent is clearly better

flow joe drums=

I like J.O.E. too, but my favorite moments from the two records are almost all on Represent. Kool G Rap goes off on "You Must Be Out Your Fucking Mind"

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:25 pm

JOE is my pick, but Represent and it's remixes are better overall.

sneed · Post by **sneed** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:09 pm

jealous ones envy is definitely favored over represent.

"ima bad bad man"

some tracks are kinda tongue in cheek, but both are dope nonetheless

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:45 pm

J.O.E. all the way man.