Nas-The Message-original version

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:08 am

I read many years ago when It Was Written dropped that press versions had circulated with a version of The Message which had a sample from Scarface at the start of the track, but it was removed for the retail version.

Had no idea that it had been bootlegged or ripped. Thought I'd post it here for anyone who hasn't heard it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5g7vg8

Note-i didn't rip this, it was by a group, but I did rip the Mic Geronimo track I posted earlier in the week.

I would love to get the original version of Noreaga's I Love My Life which supposedly had a Nas verse on it, you can hear him talking at the start of the track I think but no rap.

Nav · Post by **Nav** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:20 am

Is the Scarface sample the only difference ? Beat seems very similar/same, lo-fi quality of the demo aside.

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:36 am

Yeah I think the intro is the only difference, beat and the lyrics are the same.

This is the version they supposedly wanted on the lp but I think the sample would have cost too much, or they may not have been able to clear it at all.

Has there ever been a Nas rare tracks thread on here? He has a lot of alternate versions/unreleased tracks/remixes.

Krisch · Post by **Krisch** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:36 pm

Thanks! And yes, I would love to hear that I Love My Life original, too

bbatson1 · Post by **bbatson1** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:06 pm

yup this came out before the album dropped. I have it on vinyl. I bought it whatever year that was and haven't really played it. It has this, the foulness, and I think some Fugees song or freestyle or something that didn't come out.

Thanks for the link though, sounds good. NIce rip.

thebridgeisover · Post by **thebridgeisover** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:15 pm

Wasn't this the version released on the "I Am" cassette sampler/snippet tape that was posted here at some point in 2010?

I remember first hearing this version in streaming form on some long-forgotten hip hop site in 1999. Before hearing the sampler here, I always assumed it was a just a DJ blend. Would be interesting to confirm Nas/Sony couldnt clear the Scarface dialogue sample.

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:57 pm

I had no idea it was posted on an I Am sampler, I completely missed that.

bbatson-I'd liked to have that vinyl. I think the other freestyle is the 96/Escobar season freestyle.

bbatson1 · Post by **bbatson1** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:43 pm

It's not from I am. I don't know why it would be on there.

Shadow I'll try to rip the vinyl this week sometime.

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:41 pm

Beat and lyrics are the same but the whole thing was re-recorded and is much more polished on the album. Faster too.

Nore's I Love My Life with Nas singing the hook is fuckin horrible. Thank God that was not on his album.

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:54 pm

Doesn't Nas rhyme on the Nore track? Just singing wouldn't be too good lol.

Is there a version with him rhyming on the track? It was mentioned in the Ego Trip book that he had a verse removed.

BTW-do you have a link or something?

thebridgeisover · Post by **thebridgeisover** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:03 pm

Shit. not "I am", I meant to write the "It Was Written" cassette sampler. 1996 is cloudy for me, being in the majors and all... :powers:

thebridgeisover · Post by **thebridgeisover** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:14 pm

shadowmaster wrote:Doesn't Nas rhyme on the Nore track? Just singing wouldn't be too good lol.

Is there a version with him rhyming on the track? It was mentioned in the Ego Trip book that he had a verse removed.

BTW-do you have a link or something?

Nas was on Nore's "Body in the Trunk" and CNN's "Calm Down" (where's he's also badly singing the chrous).

Nore/Nas "Calm Down"
http://www.mediafire.com/?69i36b8qob000zr

edit: youre right, shadow. Just checked and the no scarface/cd version of the message is the one on the "It Was Written" sampler.

Nas "Silent Murder" (not on the cd release of "It Was Written")
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2225nn1dlwf8986/nas.mp3

http://www.steadybloggin.com/nas-it-was-rewritten/

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:22 pm

Yeah I know about those tracks, question is, which version of 'Calm Down' came first, the E Moneybags version or the CNN/Trag one?

The version of the It Was Written promo tape I had didn't have the Scarface intro version of 'The Message'.

Also never found out for sure which of 'Norematti' and 'Alluminatti' came first. There's conflicting opinions.

edit-bbatson-Thanks man, that would be great.

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:16 am

shadowmaster wrote:Doesn't Nas rhyme on the Nore track? Just singing wouldn't be too good lol.

Is there a version with him rhyming on the track? It was mentioned in the Ego Trip book that he had a verse removed.

BTW-do you have a link or something?

I was looking for the I Love My Life with Nas but can't seem to locate the file. I honestly might have deleted it. Will look more after work. The one I had def did not have a Nas verse, just him singing the hook. Same hook as the one Carl Thomas sings, and it was beyond horrible.

step one · Post by **step one** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:17 pm

shadowmaster wrote:Yeah I know about those tracks, question is, which version of 'Calm Down' came first, the E Moneybags version or the CNN/Trag one?

Love 'Calm Down'. didnt know about that E Money Bags version though - anyone holding?

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:49 pm

I can't upload it right now, sorry, but it's on hqhiphop.net, look under E Moneybags.

edit-Thanks pradadon

GREEN LANTERN · Post by **GREEN LANTERN** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:06 pm

step one wrote:
shadowmaster wrote:Yeah I know about those tracks, question is, which version of 'Calm Down' came first, the E Moneybags version or the CNN/Trag one?
Love 'Calm Down'. didnt know about that E Money Bags version though - anyone holding?

E-Moneybags ft. Nas, Noreaga - Thugs Calm Down
http://www.mediafire.com/?7wa8cq3891i8wm4