The Official MMA Thread

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:31 am

Ramen wrote:170 is overcrowded with wrestlers which makes it a boring division.

2 of the USA Today/SB Nation top 25 at 170 have less than 50% of their wins by finishes (Fitch and Ricardo Almeida). Even if I ignored that, I don't understand your criticism of the division.

binary · Post by **binary** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:46 am

Kid That's Lifeless wrote:
Ramen wrote:Are there any exciting fighters at 170?
Most of the relevant guys in the division are exciting (save for Fitch and, depending on your definition of exciting, Koscheck).

I love GSP but he isn't very exciting. shields is boring as shit, fitch is boring as shit.

kato · Post by **kato** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:34 pm

binary wrote:
Kid That's Lifeless wrote:
Ramen wrote:Are there any exciting fighters at 170?
Most of the relevant guys in the division are exciting (save for Fitch and, depending on your definition of exciting, Koscheck).
I love GSP but he isn't very exciting. shields is boring as shit, fitch is boring as shit.

exciting WW in the UFC:

Alves
Diaz
Hardy
Kim
Kampmann
Sanchez
Paulo Thiago

SuperFeen · Post by **SuperFeen** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:24 pm

^and Carlos Condit

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:28 pm

GSP is boring, but Kim is exciting?

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:39 pm

My nigga Fukuda got robbed

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:44 pm

^he got a bonus anyways. Dana said they're going to movie him along like it was a win.

kato · Post by **kato** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:34 pm

I don't think gsp is boring. Kim not fighting nate diaz is exciting.

madtapes · Post by **madtapes** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:15 pm

I know I'm a day or two late on this, but how great was it to see Mark Hunt whip some ass? And the cavalier way he just walked away from the dude after throwing that punch was glorious.

kato · Post by **kato** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:03 pm

madtapes wrote:I know I'm a day or two late on this, but how great was it to see Mark Hunt whip some ass? And the cavalier way he just walked away from the dude after throwing that punch was glorious.

huge HUNT fan...made the card for me

madtapes · Post by **madtapes** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:07 pm

so bad ass

madtapes · Post by **madtapes** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:13 pm

kato wrote:I don't think gsp is boring.

I think some people confuse "boring" with "methodical".

kato · Post by **kato** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:48 am

Interesting to see what Dana thought about the Fitch/Penn outcome.

גI didnגt think it was a draw,ג White stated. גI looked at the scorecards and the two judges who had it a draw scored the first two rounds for Penn and the third round a 10-8 [for Fitch].

גPersonally, I scored the first two rounds for Penn and had him winning the fight. Thereגs no doubt B.J. got pounded in the third round, but that wasnגt a 10-8 round.ג

- Dana White

Kid That's Lifeless · Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:57 am

BJ landed 2 strikes in the last round. Fitch took BJ down and landed 149 strikes. C'mon Dana, you're better than that.

madtapes · Post by **madtapes** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:11 am

Kid That's Lifeless wrote: Fitch took BJ down and landed 149 strikes.

I read that it was the second-most strikes anyone has ever landed in a single round in the UFC. As much as I hate a tie,it feels hard to argue that as not a 10-8.

Ramen · Post by **Ramen** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:39 am

If you land a 149 punches on your opponent he should be dead.

SuperFeen · Post by **SuperFeen** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:53 am

madtapes wrote:
Kid That's Lifeless wrote: Fitch took BJ down and landed 149 strikes.
I read that it was the second-most strikes anyone has ever landed in a single round in the UFC. As much as I hate a tie,it feels hard to argue that as not a 10-8.

the argument is that all those strikes were from inside guard and BJ wasn't in danger of being tko'd/subbed, which I can see, but I like the idea of giving out more 10-8 and 10-10 rounds.

ADR · Post by **ADR** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:53 pm

email from Chael Sonnen to UFC matchmaker Joe Silva:

To: Joe Silva, Matchmaker Extraordinaire, Ultimate Fighting Championship
Re: Spitsbing & his tainted victory

Joe:

If you get a chance to talk with him, please mention to your idiot-in-residence Michael Spitsbing itגll be a little tougher to knee ME in the head when Iגm charging at him like a runaway train and mincing him through the fence like a boiled potato, should we ever have the pleasure of each otherגs company for a few (VERY few) moments in the Octagon.

Oh; and Iגd suggest to him being a little careful about spitting on any of MY cornermen, since any one of them can beat him up as badly as I can. Thanks ever so much.
Hope all is well.

-Chael Sonnen

Ramen · Post by **Ramen** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:15 pm

lol @ Chael Sonnen, you ain't ever fighting in the ufc again.

madtapes · Post by **madtapes** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:17 pm

SuperFeen wrote:
madtapes wrote:
Kid That's Lifeless wrote: Fitch took BJ down and landed 149 strikes.
I read that it was the second-most strikes anyone has ever landed in a single round in the UFC. As much as I hate a tie,it feels hard to argue that as not a 10-8.
the argument is that all those strikes were from inside guard and BJ wasn't in danger of being tko'd/subbed, which I can see, but I like the idea of giving out more 10-8 and 10-10 rounds.

I feel like I wanted more 10-8 rounds, but then the Edgar/Maynard and Penn/Fitch fights happened and I was disappointed. Maybe the Japanese system would be better?

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:10 am

MMA bros, we got a card Thursday on Versus, UFC Live: Sanchez vs. Kampmann.

Picks:

Prelims (I don't care about any of these fights and they are not relevant to their divisions, but whatever. Hopefully there is some KOs and nice subs that make their way to the broadcast):

Igor
Paul Harris (via foot removal)
Kimmons
Mizugaki
Tavares (pulling for Roller and this fight should be on the Facebook stream)

Prelims on Facebook:

Diabate
Stevenson (he can't beat great fighters, Castillo is not a great fighter. Logic!)

Main Card:

Bowles
Sakara
Munoz (coin-flip pick)
Diego (wins because of positive energy and cartwheels)

madtapes · Post by **madtapes** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:11 pm

Kid That's Lifeless wrote:MMA bros, we got a card Thursday on Versus, UFC Live: Sanchez vs. Kampmann.

Picks:

Prelims (I don't care about any of these fights and they are not relevant to their divisions, but whatever. Hopefully there is some KOs and nice subs that make their way to the broadcast):

Igor
Paul Harris (via foot removal)
Kimmons
Mizugaki
Tavares (pulling for Roller and this fight should be on the Facebook stream)

Prelims on Facebook:

Diabate
Stevenson (he can't beat great fighters, Castillo is not a great fighter. Logic!)

Main Card:

Bowles
Sakara
Munoz (coin-flip pick)
Diego (wins because of positive energy and cartwheels)

For some reason I can't bring myself to care about a lot of the fighters on this card. That being said it should be a night of exciting fights. I hope Bowles and Mizugaki both crush.

ADR · Post by **ADR** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:49 am

^ I have tickets to this and I don't really care; I almost forgot it was happening.

Hopefully it's one of those sleeper cards that turns out to be exciting.

kato · Post by **kato** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:43 pm

gonna go with Kampmann

Kid That's Lifeless · Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:11 am

I think Diego won, but judges might look at his face and give it to Kampmann. Diego's face looks awful.

Kid That's Lifeless · Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:16 am

I'm gonna have to watch the second round again. Kampmann won the first, Diego won the third.

kato · Post by **kato** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:17 am

Kampmann won that fight...

2 big fights for Kampmann and the judges get it wrong.

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:11 pm

i think diego won rounds 2&3

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:34 pm

the dead poet wrote:i think diego won rounds 2&3

Rewatched the fight again and I agree. Great fight. Dana gave each of them $160,000 for their performances.

madtapes · Post by **madtapes** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:39 pm

Incredible fight (as sloppy as it was). Sanchez is a warrior, but for some reason I still cant bring myself to care about him.

Anyone notice that Bowles finished Page with the same move at the exact same time in the same round as he did the first time they fought?