NBA Finals Thread

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:23 pm

it's gotten to the point where i'm going to ignore Trademark during every NBA playoffs.

eternalreflection · Post by **eternalreflection** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:02 pm

jamrage wrote:
Moolah wrote:Seriously I don't understand how this is not an offensive foul.

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I saw in the postgame interview the refs said to Jameer Nelson that they couldn't call an offensive foul on Kobe cause he had the ball.
It was obviously an accident. Again, I felt like Nelson just ran into it. At the beginning of the play Nelson pretends like he's going to double Kobe then he backs out, then he comes in again to actually double Kobe. I don't blame Kobe for not knowing where he was in that instance.

It was a good no call in my opinion.

I mean it could have been an accident, but given Kobe's history I doubt it

anyway even if its an accident its still a foul

sleddog710 · Post by **sleddog710** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:05 pm

fuck it dont let fouls determine the final minute outcome. this is playoffs baby

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:59 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:it's gotten to the point where i'm going to ignore Trademark during every NBA playoffs.

you know you love my analysises..... Let me ask you a question gregg, would a healthy celtics team already won this finals?

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:23 pm

an-also wrote:correct me if im wrong, but isnt a player with the ball allowed a certain radius to around his body to swing his hands/elbows without it being a foul?

Not true. How would you define the radius? It's not like you can elbow someone more than a foot away anyway. An elbow foul is always going to be close quarters.

Interestingly enough according to the rulebook it is actually an ejectable offense.

NBA Rules #12 - Fouls and Penalties

Section V--Conduct
d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as:
(6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no contact involved

EXCEPTION: Rule 12A--Section V--l(5)
l. A player, coach or trainer must be ejected for:
(3) An elbow foul which makes contact above shoulder level

q. Elbow fouls, which make contact above shoulder level, and punching fouls, although recorded as both personal and team fouls, are unsportsmanlike acts. The player will be ejected immediately.

It's a little confusing, but I think it's only ejectable if it was "intentional", which you can't prove the Kobe elbow was.

jamrage · Post by **jamrage** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:16 am

eternalreflection wrote:
jamrage wrote:
Moolah wrote:Seriously I don't understand how this is not an offensive foul.

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I saw in the postgame interview the refs said to Jameer Nelson that they couldn't call an offensive foul on Kobe cause he had the ball.
It was obviously an accident. Again, I felt like Nelson just ran into it. At the beginning of the play Nelson pretends like he's going to double Kobe then he backs out, then he comes in again to actually double Kobe. I don't blame Kobe for not knowing where he was in that instance.

It was a good no call in my opinion.
I mean it could have been an accident, but given Kobe's history I doubt it

anyway even if its an accident its still a foul

Why would Kobe throw an elbow like that at the end of the game on purpose? It makes no sense at all. Shit like that happens in the first quarter or two generally if you're trying to send a message, not right at the end of a game.

It's probably a foul if you go by the letter of the law, but again I'm glad they didn't call it. To eject Kobe for that would have been ridiculous.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:28 am

It shouldn't have been an ejection, but it should have been a foul. Don't really see how that can be debated. Intent doesn't matter in determining whether or not it's a foul. If you're trying to block someone and you hit their arm accidentally, it's not a no call because it was unintentional.

Big Breeze · Post by **Big Breeze** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:03 am

JAMEER NELSON RUNS INTO KOBE'S ELBOW. THAT'S WHY THERE IS NO MUTHAFUCKIN FOUL. IT'S NOT KOBE'S FAULT THAT NELSON IS 5'10 AND CAN'T PUT THE BRAKES ON. IF HE WOULD HAVE BEEN DECENT BASKETBALL HEIGHT, THIS PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.

ACCIDENTAL CONTACT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT IN BASKETBALL AND THAT WAS AN INCIDENT IN WHERE A NO CALL WAS ADEQUATE. U CAN'T CALL A DEFENSIVE FOUL ON NELSON, BECAUSE IT WAS HIM THAT ENGAGED IN THE CONTACT. U CAN'T CALL THE FOUL ON KOBE BECAUSE HE WAS MAKIN A NATURAL BASKETBALL ACTION AND HAD NO INTENT OF HAMMERIN JAMEER UPSIDE THE HEAD. WITH THAT SAID, THE OFFICIALS DID THE RIGHT THING BY NOT BLOWIN THE WHISTLE. END OF STORY.

hustler · Post by **hustler** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:40 am

Big Breeze wrote:JAMEER NELSON RUNS INTO KOBE'S ELBOW. THAT'S WHY THERE IS NO MUTHAFUCKIN FOUL. IT'S NOT KOBE'S FAULT THAT NELSON IS 5'10 AND CAN'T PUT THE BRAKES ON. IF HE WOULD HAVE BEEN DECENT BASKETBALL HEIGHT, THIS PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.

ACCIDENTAL CONTACT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT IN BASKETBALL AND THAT WAS AN INCIDENT IN WHERE A NO CALL WAS ADEQUATE. U CAN'T CALL A DEFENSIVE FOUL ON NELSON, BECAUSE IT WAS HIM THAT ENGAGED IN THE CONTACT. U CAN'T CALL THE FOUL ON KOBE BECAUSE HE WAS MAKIN A NATURAL BASKETBALL ACTION AND HAD NO INTENT OF HAMMERIN JAMEER UPSIDE THE HEAD. WITH THAT SAID, THE OFFICIALS DID THE RIGHT THING BY NOT BLOWIN THE WHISTLE. END OF STORY.

u are a faggot lakers fan and a kobe scrotum licking capslock bitch. u make me sick and u bring shame to the sports bar, kill yourself before i have to kill you, and u will have atleast done one considerate thing in your miserable existence. FUCK YOU FAGGOT.

Big Breeze · Post by **Big Breeze** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:44 am

^ U R JUST ONE OF THOSE BITCHMADE ASS LAKER HATERS I'VE BEEN TALKIN BOUT IN THIS THREAD. DON'T GET MAD BECAUSE WHATEVA TEAM U ROOT FO IS NOT PLAYIN WELL OR PLAYIN AT ALL.

I'LL SHOW U HOW MUCH OF A FAGGOT I AM THOUGH. I'LL FUCK U IN THE ASS, AND THEN I'LL KILL U AND MYSELF BECAUSE OF THE SHAME. THEREFORE, WE BOTH WOULD WIN.

Simple Rock · Post by **Simple Rock** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:59 pm

^:lol:

As a Lakers fan, watching/reading the Laker haters is a very entertaining thing

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:00 pm

Simple Rock wrote:^:lol:

As a Lakers fan, watching/reading the Laker haters is a very entertaining thing

agreed. shit is honestly funny as fuck.

anyways i'm going to the parade if we win (knock on wood) anyone else going? hustler i'd be happy if you would go, so that i could buy you a drink or choke the fuck out of you...either way tis all good.

Simple Rock · Post by **Simple Rock** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:39 pm

I"ll be up there most likely

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:01 pm

This game gets the :blaowarrow:

somebody cool · Post by **somebody cool** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:25 pm

wow man

dware94 · Post by **dware94** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:32 pm

What a shitty series, almost as bad as the Spurs/Cavs series. NHL playoffs > NBA playoffs.

jamrage · Post by **jamrage** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:39 pm

This game was over for a long time.

Kobe's had an incredible game:

30 points, 6 boards, 5 assists, 2 steals, and 4 blocks.

He's the best player in the league.

Congratulations Lakers fans, you guys had a helluva team and a helluva season.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:52 pm

Yeah the talk about LeBron is the best shouldn't really have happened because until he wins like Kobe it's silly.

That said the series was rather underwhelming.

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:02 pm

dware94 wrote:What a shitty series

Smithee · Post by **Smithee** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:09 pm

LilLeftBrain wrote:
dware94 wrote:fuck the fake show

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:16 pm

a menace

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:24 pm

hustler, trademark. tell me how my ass taste

Smithee · Post by **Smithee** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:26 pm

the dead poet wrote:hustler, trademark. tell me how my ass taste

you're a phag.

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:40 pm

Smithee wrote:
the dead poet wrote:hustler, trademark. tell me how my ass taste
you're a phag.

oh lighten up pussy, i'm joking with em.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:58 pm

Philaflava wrote:Yeah the talk about LeBron is the best shouldn't really have happened because until he wins like Kobe it's silly.

That said the series was rather underwhelming.

Lebron James is better than Kobe. Come on now.

jamrage · Post by **jamrage** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:15 am

Magneto wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Yeah the talk about LeBron is the best shouldn't really have happened because until he wins like Kobe it's silly.

That said the series was rather underwhelming.
Lebron James is better than Kobe. Come on now.

Nope.

Lebron is much farther along than Kobe was at this point in his career, but Kobe has the edge in all the intangibles, and he's winning titles. Kobe is better at the line, and he's a better leader too. Dude just wills his team to win. Lebron hasn't been able to do that yet.

It's really close, but Kobe is the best right now.

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:24 am

first and foremost. I'm a laker fan. Bred one. And yes i'm messican. I think labron has passed kobe. But also i'm thinking i can't say that without labron making a real run at a title. But honestly Brons season was nuts. My arguement before was that he wasnt as good a defender or jump shooter and didnt' have that killer instinct. His d is damn solid now. His jumper is still a hair under kobe's and i still dont think he's got that killer instinct....but that will come. Its a toss up to me now.

somebody cool · Post by **somebody cool** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:26 am

the dead poet wrote: His jumper is still a hair under kobe's

lebrons jumper is nowhere near kobes. not even close

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:28 am

somebody cool wrote:
the dead poet wrote: His jumper is still a hair under kobe's
lebrons jumper is nowhere near kobes. not even close

was i being too nice? really i just didnt want an agrument to ensue. but i agree...hahaha

VideoKilledThe · Post by **VideoKilledThe** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:44 am

Lakers Baby!

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