2nd albums better than debut

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:05 pm

many are, but there are 2nd albums that are pretty damn close to being classics. the ones below are significantly better than the debut IMO.

do not include EPs (intoxicated demons).

add on.

onyx - all we got iz us
tha liks - coast II coast
common - resurrection
de la soul - dlsid
fugees - the score
gfk - supreme clientele (not significantly better though)
mobb deep - the infamous
ok - stress
pete rock & cl - main ingredient
redman - dare iz a darkside
2pac - strictly for my niggaz

Kid That's Lifeless · Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:08 pm

Off the top of my head:
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
Gang Starr - Step In The Arena

Req · Post by **Req** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:09 pm

PE - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

Hair of the Dog · Post by **Hair of the Dog** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:09 pm

GZA - Liquid Swords (if you count 'words from the genius' as his first)

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:18 pm

common was def the first thing that came to mind

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:21 pm

Digable Planets - Blowout Comb

*gasp* Tribe - Low End Theory

Busta Ry · Post by **Busta Ry** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:25 pm

I would definitely put Low End Theory on this list. Disagree with Main Ingredient, personally.
Paul's Boutique?
I prefer ATLiens.

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:27 pm

Busta Ry wrote:Paul's Boutique?

Good call.

admiral · Post by **admiral** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:30 pm

I enjoy OK's debut more than Stress, but I think I'm in the minority

MOP - Firing Squad
Tragedy - Saga of a Hoodlum

Busta Ry · Post by **Busta Ry** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:31 pm

Follow The Leader
Unfinished Business
illadelph halflife
Wanted: Dead or Alive

KITFUNK · Post by **KITFUNK** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:35 pm

Masta Ace - SlaughtaHouse
KRS-One - self titled [sophomore solo album]
Canibus - 2000 BC
Jedi Mind Tricks - Violent By Design
G Rap & Polo - Wanted: Dead or Alive
dj honda - H II
Freddie Foxxx - Industry Shakedown
Reef the Lost Cauze - Invisible Empire

Some people would tell you A Book of Human Language, but I like ABDB. They prolly on the same level.

sean · Post by **sean** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:48 pm

de la is dead...

actually, maybe i'm an idiot,
but in my opinion, it'd be more difficult to list debut albums that were better than sophomore releases.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:57 pm

The Roots - Do You Want More?!!!??
LL Cool J - Bigger and Deffer

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:11 pm

Nas "It was Written"
Eminem "Slim Shady LP"

KITFUNK · Post by **KITFUNK** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:12 pm

sean wrote: but in my opinion, it'd be more difficult to list debut albums that were better than sophomore releases.

Nah.

Illmatic
36 Chambers
Word...Life
OB4CL...
93 Til Infinity
Life of a Kid in the Ghetto
Soul On Ice
Dah Shinin'
Enta Da Stage
Nocturnal
Da Storm
LODP&D
Capital Punishment
Funky Technician
The Realness
Doe or Die
Stunts, Blunts, & Hip Hop
Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde
Between a Rock and a Hard Place
Nia
The Last Shall Be First
Breaking Atoms
Tical
Black on Both Sides
Reflection Eternal
Internal Affairs
Ready To Die
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Soul Survivor
The 18th Letter

I could go on forever.

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:12 pm

Tweak Da Leak wrote:Nas "It was Written"

sean · Post by **sean** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:32 pm

KITFUNK wrote:
sean wrote: but in my opinion, it'd be more difficult to list debut albums that were better than sophomore releases.
Nah.

I could go on forever.

keep going. forever.

seems that your list is shorter than the running list of better sophomore joints.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:38 pm

battlecatmeowstab212 · Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:48 pm

Was going to add 'King of Rock' but then didn't when I gave it some serious thought.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:55 pm

El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead

Doc_Holliday · Post by **Doc_Holliday** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:15 pm

Dre?
M.O.P. - Firing Squad
Artifacts - That's Them
Cam - SDE
O.C. - Jewelz (not better than debut but too easily forgotten imo)

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:17 pm

Versive wrote:El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead

interesting/arguable pov

his production is def more sophisticated on ISWYD, but FanDam had much much more replay value to me

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:17 pm

The Afronaut wrote:
*gasp* Tribe - Low End Theory

Came into this thread just to hunt you down.

Nav · Post by **Nav** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:19 pm

drizzle wrote:mobb deep was def the first thing that came to mind

And seriously, doc holliday, That's them being better than Between a rock and a hard place ? Nah, son, nah.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:21 pm

KITFUNK wrote:Masta Ace - SlaughtaHouse

Emphatically no.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:22 pm

Nav wrote:
drizzle wrote: And seriously, doc holliday, That's them being better than Between a rock and a hard place ? Nah, son, nah.

There are valid arguments to be made for both sides.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:26 pm

Thun wrote:
Nav wrote:
drizzle wrote: And seriously, doc holliday, That's them being better than Between a rock and a hard place ? Nah, son, nah.
There are valid arguments to be made for both sides.

I'd like to hear those arguments for "That's them" being better.. Those two albums are not even in the same universe, imo.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:27 pm

Tweak Da Leak wrote:Nas "It was Written"

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:28 pm

Completely forgot about Clipse.

Hell Hath No Fury > Lord Willin'

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:28 pm

^^ agreed