Lil B: Hop on BASE

[drizzle]

new song is all sorts of great
http://www.steadybloggin.com/lil-b-i-ki ... t-cormega/

[blastmaster]

So dope.

[drizzle]

thought about making a blog post out of it decided against it

cormega responds to taking flac on his own forum for the lil b collaboration, 10 pages of lolz, and smh

http://www.legalhustle.net/forum/viewto ... 5&start=60

[drizzle]

lol the hits keep coming, apparently he was talking about kanye's dick on the radio

http://gossiponthis.com/2010/11/01/lil- ... um=twitter

i think i'm gonna make that post after all

[Thun]

lol the hits keep coming, apparently he was talking about kanye's dick on the radio

http://gossiponthis.com/2010/11/01/lil- ... um=twitter

i think i'm gonna make that post after all

Saw the SB post. Wow.

Lil B "I Killed Hip Hop" write-up on TROY tomorrow.

[Thun]

fuck whatever your saying mega, there is no justification for cosign a man how calls himself a pretty bitch and threatens to fuck men up their asses. I don't care if it's 2010 or 2010 before christ, this kid is honestly the worst thing to happen to MUSIC PERIOD! Not because of some homophobia, but because he has no talent. I would rather hear people fart on microphones than hearing this guy rap. This guy is the embodies the wackness in hiphop ever. and you give him credit? this is the type of person you would recommend people to listen to? he is the kind of person you want young folks to look up to?

This song officially confirms that I will burn all my mega cds, not copy them, i mean pour gas on them shits and burn them. I will never spend another penny of mine on your music because no matter what you say, your actions speak louder than any words you can try to find to explain why you would give this kid any respect. I wont listen to any of your tracks EVER again. this shit discredits anything you can ever say or do, you unfortunately crossed that line. comparing any of his shit to BIG on top of that?? one gay line verses a whole gay catalog and aura? shit doesn't match up..

Fuck that, you sold your soul and any artistic credibility you worked so hard to build. I vouched for you anytime anyone asked me about who you were. but that's done, over, finished! Anytime people ask me about you, I'll ask them Mega who?
never heard of him.

I can't support anyone that supports that bitch ass lil b. I never disliked anyone enough to completely disregard anyone related to them, but this guy is honestly that BAD! it goes beyond music.. He's a complete dumb ass..

straight up I have never been so disappointed with an artist as I am with you Mega.
you just marketed yourself as a sellout, go smoke on that with lil b..fuck this...

PEACE

odds on this being someone who posts here?

[A Kid]

lol @ people thinking Mega had anything to do anyway...he prolly aint due to drop another album for 7 years at his pace....maybe some #based living can get his work ethic up

[drizzle]

odds on this being someone who posts here?

wait don't we have somebody who actually sign his posts PEACE too

or am i just confusing it with the 39

[Thun]

http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/11/02/j ... clamation/

[drizzle]

well done

[The Rapping Coffin]

http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/11/02/j ... clamation/

Really well done.

[Kid That's Lifeless]

odds on this being someone who posts here?

wait don't we have somebody who actually sign his posts PEACE too

or am i just confusing it with the 39

peanut butter

[peanut butter]

odds on this being someone who posts here?

wait don't we have somebody who actually sign his posts PEACE too

or am i just confusing it with the 39

peanut butter

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BASED

[drizzle]

lol well played

[COOLEHMAGAZINE]

http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/11/02/j ... clamation/

Interesting blog for sure. I am not really sure about your interpretation of "Who Killed it" within the context of that album. It's certainly not a good song, and it is also opaque in it's intentions but I am not understanding how it is "condescending" nor how the album is exculapatory of Nas' own role in "the death of hip-hop". I am the only person on earth who thinks HHID is a great album though, so yeah, my take on it is somewhat different.

[Thun]

http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/11/02/j ... clamation/

Interesting blog for sure. I am not really sure about your interpretation of "Who Killed it" within the context of that album. It's certainly not a good song, and it is also opaque in it's intentions but I am not understanding how it is "condescending" nor how the album is exculapatory of Nas' own role in "the death of hip-hop". I am the only person on earth who thinks HHID is a great album though, so yeah, my take on it is somewhat different.

Unless I missed something, Nas doesn't spend one single line on the album discussing his direct and sustained involvement in the popularization of the rapper-as-drug dealer conceit. He raps as if he is above the culture, and for the entirety of the album documents why it is depraved, on its last legs, etc. Not one reflexive moment. This is what makes his critique condescending - he never identifies his own legacy as part of the problem. He actually has the nerve to say bemoan "creative rhymes" giving way to criminal lore and then brag about his longevity on the same song.

Unless of course I did miss something, but the album is pretty unilateral, except on "Who Killed It" where he forgoes statement for style on some Black Dahlia shit and make his own convoluted thesis look additionally batshit.

[COOLEHMAGAZINE]

http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/11/02/j ... clamation/

Interesting blog for sure. I am not really sure about your interpretation of "Who Killed it" within the context of that album. It's certainly not a good song, and it is also opaque in it's intentions but I am not understanding how it is "condescending" nor how the album is exculapatory of Nas' own role in "the death of hip-hop". I am the only person on earth who thinks HHID is a great album though, so yeah, my take on it is somewhat different.

Unless I missed something, Nas doesn't spend one single line on the album discussing his direct and sustained involvement in the popularization of the rapper-as-drug dealer conceit. He raps as if he is above the culture, and for the entirety of the album documents why it is depraved, on its last legs, etc. Not one reflexive moment. This is what makes his critique condescending - he never identifies his own legacy as part of the problem. He actually has the nerve to say bemoan "creative rhymes" giving way to criminal lore and then brag about his longevity on the same song.

Unless of course I did miss something, but the album is pretty unilateral, except on "Who Killed It" where he forgoes statement for style on some Black Dahlia shit and make his own convoluted thesis look additionally batshit.

Like I said, I think the blog is really good but I think that you (and many other people) missed a lot of stuff on HHID.

"Not Going Back" when discussing his own naivete upon first getting money:

"Cause in reality, I learned my salary/ The way I flaunted it then, would now embarass me"

"Carry on tradition" talking about old rappers (presumably east coast boom-bap dinosaurs who hate on young cats)

"Some rap pioneers be them crackheads/ When they speak you see missing teeth/ Silver chain with a silver piece/ Niggas your gradfathers age/ Pants hanging down they legs/ And they hate you cuz they say you aint pay dues"

Then on the same song referring to himself and his peers:

Hip-hop been dead/ We the reason it died

Then, after detailing how the modern recording process, expensive cars and business lunches contrast with how he came up


We used to be a ghetto secret/ Can't make my mind up if I want that or the whole world to peep it

Then on Hope's outro

It doesn't got nothing to do with old school, new school, dirty south, west coast, east coast. this is about us, this is our thing..."

And he goes on to take people saying they are "hustlers not rappers" to task. Which you could have a problem with, but is not the same thing as having a problem with the type of aesthetics embraced by an artist. I assume it is more to do with those who he sees as publicly denouncing any reverence or appreciation of the artform.


As for the line you are referring to on "Can't Forget About You", [That's why the gangsta rhymers aint inspired/heinous crimes helped record sales more than creative lines]. I would argue that, within the context of the song which is about nostalgia, it is far from an indictment and closer to a rueful statement that could theoretically include him and his more "gangster" days. He goes on to say "the past is the past, aight then/but nothing gives me chills like...and goes on to say a bunch of moments unrelated to rap, from the early 90s and the 80s.

then on "Let There Be Light"

And they don't really wanna see the good in me
Ain't satisfied until they see the fool in me
(And I) I know my business, so my sins great

And on the second verse he seems to also point out that he knows what sort of stuff he used to spit/do, and how that is a contradiction to some. Or just that people are uninterested in him doing other things:

"I can't sound smart cuz ya'll'll run away
They say I ain't hungry no more and I don't talk about yay
Like there's no other way for a ex-hustler
Cake getter, ex wig-splitter splitter to touch ya, I beg to differ"


I also do not see HHID as merely a screed against current rap and/or rap trends at all. It is as much about a man growing out of his youth and standing at a crossroads between wealth and family and the streets and petty intrigues of the industry. It's also somewhat concerned with the recent history of modern black music and the collision of celebrity and fame and black america. Also the arc of the album means that the negativity of the early part of the record, gives way to an affirmation of "hip-hop" being very much alive.

And of course with how well Nas thinks he raps.

I do not wholly disagree with your thesis, I just do not think that HHID is the one-dimensional record you are describing.

[Thun]

Not so much one-dimensional as almost entirely self-serving. Not that I blame him for it, but what I was trying to convey is that his moments of righteous indignation are hard to take seriously. And I do believe he wants us to take them deadly seriously.

You point out some good examples of a Nas who isn't entirely confident about his stance, and occasionally questions himself. Maybe I'm being hyperbolic in my criticism. But by and large, the self-mythology that he promotes on the album is that of of prophet/savior with an enlightened perspective whose longevity testifies to a kind of rarefied righteousness. That's how he comes off to me, even on songs where there is some, usually very brief and very slight, acknowledgement of wrongdoing on his own part.

"Carry On Tradition" does see him grapple with the pitfalls of fame, and attempt to relate this to the inevitable, linked process of the genre's maturation/globalization/deracination but I'm not wholly convinced that he's willing to examine his actual role in all of it. He claims to not understand new rappers and their convoluted street code -- I mean, does he not realize that pretty much every mediocre mixtape idiot in NYC heard It Was Written blasted into their ears at the most vulnerable moments of their lives? The fact that he says "we the reason" could be interpreted as him owning to some of the guilt but it could also be his way of disseminating it ... I mean his hold on power, fame, influence is disproportionate, he's the multiplatinum media/critical darling, right?

On "Can't Forget About You" he does not appear to be including himself in his critique of the genre. The song is essentially about a past halcyon era, which happens to coincide with his childhood, adolescence and entrance into the business. He suggests that this era is filled with a kind of irreplaceable magic that at some point waned. He further suggests that certain forces intentionally disrupted this era, and he names uninspired gangsta rhymers, a group which he does not claim membership in, even implicitly. I'm not saying your read is wrong, because who know for sure, but I see it as a bit of a stretch.

Your point that there's more to this album than I led on is a good one, though.

[peanut butter]

Enough of this hip-hop philosopher's club. Back to BASED.



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PEACE

[drizzle]

new york subway is so relevant to my interests

[battlecatmeowstab212]

Seriously, let's discuss 'Red Flame.'

[starks]

^ its good

[starks]

coolehmagazine i see you dog

[Tweak Da Leak]

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[DLG]

link for red flame plz?

[COOLEHMAGAZINE]

coolehmagazine i see you dog

Haha, I did something?

[battlecatmeowstab212]

link for red flame plz?

Official link, FREE, and you don't need to sign it:
http://www.datpiff.com/The_BasedGod_Lil ... 67769.html

[A Kid]

bout time somebody dropped a legit mixtape. definitley #rare but #secrete?

[battlecatmeowstab212]

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[DLG]

thanks for the link