Mindbender world premier: PIMP

avianpattern · Post by **avianpattern** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:18 am

Absolutely horrible. ears bleeding horrible.

Conspiracy · Post by **Conspiracy** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:34 am

I like your rapping styles on this song and the structure is well written for a mature adult hiphop lyricist (mabye not for a young ADD fan, tho)

after all that fighting we did online, it makes me feel better to know, i'll be smoking victory spliffs and having vodka shots at the live SBU shows that we will be doing for the 2010 year and more later...

you watered the speed down a little bit and kept the word size the same.Literature size. so mindbender uses a brain....[and any guy with a name about any mental shit SHOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SMARTNESS]

i been a fan, but all I wanted from you are better BEATS that you rap on

if they all were llike 'Really'....je-hova

you , to me for a mix of wordplay are like el-p, aceyalone, nas, royce and 2 splashes of prevail and classified...

mindbender is going to give me a free ride to retirement
[joking!](it ain't mine if -I- don't earn it)

the SBU album is a god damn 13 movie soundtrack

HTM RULZ.I found a cartoon picture of Anu.............................................!

maclethal · Post by **maclethal** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:17 am

Conspiracy, if you had to compare your ability to create music in comparison to Mindbender's how would you describe it?

Do you think you have a stronger sense of rhythm? Or does he?

Also, you clearly think your eat for beats is a little sharper?

Mindbender, do you think your ability to eloquently dissect concepts is what really pushes SBU forward? I know I've criticized your flow a bit, but the syllables and conceptualizingation are on point.

I ask because I am trying to get my brother to stop holding back with writing, but he seems to be afraid of being in my shadow. It's kinda funny, you guys are the first two I thought of after the convo we had.

KritiKal · Post by **KritiKal** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:30 am

What I learned from this video:

-Mindbender acts humble?

-Mindbender actually feels like he hasn't done shit

-Dropping jewels and liking women are mutually exclusive

-Mindbender can't record music after shaving

-"Is this Jodeci?" @ 1:20

-I can actually understand the lyrics, despite the uncomfortable subject matter from a shiny canadian space rapper I actually liked the song

-Toronto is only 4 hours, if I happened to be there I would definetely see a Mindbender show

-Shocking, Mindbender is a Tiger Woods apologist

Dids · Post by **Dids** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:30 pm

It's mostly just trite and boring instead of horrible, I guess that's progress.

Voss · Post by **Voss** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:37 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
mike eagle wrote:what did that guy in the audience scream at :24

did he say "you're thirty-two years old" ?

I like the hook...the verses may be too long. Was that whole song two verses?
I don't think he said that. But I was trying to figure that out, too.

He said "42...You're 42 years old!"
Sorry mayne. He did.

Sex raps ain't your forte homie. Beat was aight, your rapping was good on a technical level too. But the subject matter just sounds kinda creepy honestly...like a poor man's Kool Keith.
Not tryna bash it, just an opinion that you've asked for.

That outfit gotta go too doggie. Jesus Christ.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:57 pm

Voss wrote:He said "42...You're 42 years old!"
Sorry mayne. He did.

Chairman LMAO. Dissed in his own backyard.

Seeing this faggot type about sex is bad enough, but hearing him attempt to rap about it is just plain disturbing.

You'd be arrested on public indecency charges if you ever tried to perform this song in America, you creepy pervert.

Then again, Mindbender would be bottled off after 5 seconds if he ever tried to get on stage to perform in America, period.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:57 pm

cause I care, and it's Sunday afternoon:

maclethalcuntfucker wrote:Conspiracy, if you had to compare your ability to create music in comparison to Mindbender's how would you describe it?

Do you think you have a stronger sense of rhythm? Or does he?

Also, you clearly think your eat for beats is a little sharper?

Mindbender, do you think your ability to eloquently dissect concepts is what really pushes SBU forward? I know I've criticized your flow a bit, but the syllables and conceptualizingation are on point.

I ask because I am trying to get my brother to stop holding back with writing, but he seems to be afraid of being in my shadow. It's kinda funny, you guys are the first two I thought of after the convo we had.

Conspiracy and I are truly an amazing example of contrast in creativity.
He writes extremely fast and almost never takes out any lines. I write pretty slow and often overthink my shit, and it takes two weeks for me to finish some songs, while on the page, I will edit out like 30% of the verse before I get my final version. He's way more confident of a freestyler, and he's a monster of a battle rapper. I think I may memorize my verses better, and I don't care to battle at all. He isn't as much of a fast, tung-twista rapper, while I spit sharp streams of darts oftentimes. His voice is more powerful and his growl is more fierce than mine, but I am improving my ability to express myself in the other realm of the sound spectrum by singing and harmonizing. He has much stronger visual/verbal imagery than I do. His amazingly vivid imagination is his forte, while I think my abstract idea wordplay mosaics can be pretty stunning when executed best. He says words on record that I would never say, and his religious/philosophical beliefs are sometimes diametrically opposed to mine. But it's all good. We still rock the spot.

It's okay about your criticism, Mac. You have ALWAYS been relatively respectful and mature, which is more than can be said about most people on Phila. I'm a growing artist. My old shit wasn't nearly as rhythmic as this new stuff is. No two songs of mine really sound alike, if you are really listening close. "Pushing SBU forward" doesn't really happen cause we're not on a label, and most people in Canada are confused, afraid, or in stunned awe of the energy that we radiate in our life and in our music. I've seen people come to a full stop dead in their tracks on the sidewalk when they made visual contact with Conspiracy.

I don't know if I'd say one has a better sense of rhythm or better taste in beats. We both just have access to different producers, as we were living in different cities for the last 10 years. Until we did this album with Weez-L, Cadence Weapon's old DJ, we didn't work on a project together since like 1997. People here say I'm off beat, but I think I'm on beat, I just don't keep the rhythm between the ones very steady (:jazzing it up). Conspiracy doesn't stick to rhyming on the one very often in my ears, so to some, he might be more off beat than I am, but to others, I might be more off beat. Whatevs.

He has his strong points and weaknesses, and I have mine. They compliment each other. Steel sharpens steel. I hope that helped, Mac. Tell your brother to get his head clear, decide how far he wants to go in rap, and shit out those fears cause they will not help his dreams grow. If he REALLY wants to be an MC, he's just gotta do it. Warren G will never come close to what Dr. Dre has done, but does that mean he should stop making music? No.

I'd enjoy hearing a song with you and your brother, Mac. Boost his self-confidence and let him know he should come in the game if he wants it that bad. Fuck the familial stigma. If he's any good, people will drop the "he's Mac Lethal's brother" shit pretty quick. If Ray J was a great singer, nobody would care that he's Brandy's little brother. All he'll be remembered for is that he got a big meat and that he boned my wifey.

one love, man.

Conspiracy wrote:I like your rapping styles on this song and the structure is well written for a mature adult hiphop lyricist (mabye not for a young ADD fan, tho)

after all that fighting we did online, it makes me feel better to know, i'll be smoking victory spliffs and having vodka shots at the live SBU shows that we will be doing for the 2010 year and more later...

you watered the speed down a little bit and kept the word size the same.Literature size. so mindbender uses a brain....[and any guy with a name about any mental shit SHOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SMARTNESS]

i been a fan, but all I wanted from you are better BEATS that you rap on

if they all were llike 'Really'....je-hova

you , to me for a mix of wordplay are like el-p, aceyalone, nas, royce and 2 splashes of prevail and classified...

mindbender is going to give me a free ride to retirement
[joking!](it ain't mine if -I- don't earn it)

the SBU album is a god damn 13 movie soundtrack

HTM RULZ.I found a cartoon picture of Anu.............................................!

thanks brother. hey, I feel like it's not even egotistical to say there is NOT ONE EQUIVALENT on Planet Earth to Conspiracy and Mindbender of SBU, as a creative musical duo. Out of all 6 fucking billion people on earth, I ain't aware of anything even close to our Twin Hypeness.

I say one thing: start thinking less about retirement and start thinking more about what you have to do between now and "then". And also realize: true blue musicians DO NOT RETIRE. They play until they leave the planet. BB King is still going strong. James Brown had a tour planned when he died. And there's this guy Michael Jackson...

Conspiracy, we have a lot of fun aka work aka service aka creation to do. Today. Not tomorrow. Every today. Put the music in front of EVERYTHING. We have to tour this new SBU album cause it IS a fucking masterpiece movie of an album. Nothing close to it in rap right now. The majors are dead, independent movements rule the world. Let's get our business together, find our fanbase, and completely fucking ignore any other waste of our increasingly-focused energy.

but yes... most importantly, there will be much to celebrate. we had to go through hell to create heaven. it's always darkest before the dawn.

step one wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
this song is fun. one day after i made it, someone from this show requested me to show up to a party tonight and perform it

Mike Eagle, you are wise. More wise than most of the people talking shit around here.

After my performance last night, I realized: to maximize the potential of the song 'PIMP', I'm going to make a concert-only 'Quickie Mix', 2 minutes and some seconds. Repeat the chorus a few times, and shorten the verses. I just want people enjoying it 100%, not 70%.

I also got the sweetest taste of the power of sex and music's intoxicating chemistry, as I was performing this at a Christmas party where lots of drunken women were more than receptive to all that I had to give. I performed my remake of Drake's 'Best I Ever Had', which went over well enough...

but when I got into 'PIMP', it was showtime ambrosia. I had a couple sexy girls dancing all up and down on me as I walked around the room with the cordless, I was rhyming into pussies, spanking asses, and cut out a line to place a juicy kiss on this cute little thing I wound up dirty dancing with later on in the night. I'm finally confident enough to take what I want from this shit, and I did it last night. Some people taped the debauchery on their camera phones, I'll share links if I get any.

Good party last night. I didn't wear my Matrix jacket, but I got a bit dressed up. I make it hard to forget seeing my concerts.

Employee wrote:
It looks like you swiped that jacket right off the back of James Woods's character in "Casino."

At least you're comfortable on stage. That's more than you can say for 99% of rappers.

oh, I'm not afraid of a microphone or an audience, my friend. I been doing this shit for a minute and a half.

I'm more afraid of going all out with all of my insane ideas. But I'm not even afraid of that really anymore. I could streak naked, pop ecstacy, get a blowjob, or take psychotic suggestions from the audience and do it. Just no GG Allin pain infliction, I ain't slashing my nipple off or eating shit.

I'm ready.

KritiKal wrote:What I learned from this video:

-Mindbender acts humble?

-Mindbender actually feels like he hasn't done shit

-Dropping jewels and liking women are mutually exclusive

-Mindbender can't record music after shaving

-"Is this Jodeci?" @ 1:20

-I can actually understand the lyrics, despite the uncomfortable subject matter from a shiny canadian space rapper I actually liked the song

-Toronto is only 4 hours, if I happened to be there I would definetely see a Mindbender show

-Shocking, Mindbender is a Tiger Woods apologist

How many times have I said that I'm not the same person on here that I am in real life? I don't think ANY of you are the same person on here as you are in reality. Grant me the same respect, if you can.

I haven't done anything in hip hop yet. Almost nothing. Compared to the size of my dreams? Absolutely nothing.

And I get people coming up to me after every show saying how much they enjoyed it. I may be part crazy, but I also know what I'm doing.

Apologist? LOL. not really, I just respect the duggan more cause he finally seems human. His old image was too perfect. But I realized I shoulda gave a shoutout to Elin too.

oh, Voss. he said "32" not "42", Mike was right. I realized that was the guy who said to me, after he saw me perform 'F.A.I.L.': "Brother, I saw you on stage and I could see the spirit of Russell Jones in you. "I wanna see blood!" Man, you got some ODB energy when you perform, it's great!"

million dollar compliment to my soul.

last, and certainly least: IDAL, I've performed quite a few times in America, and never got booed, bottled, or dissed. A certain childish weakling on this very message board saw me share the same stage with El-P, Atmosphere, Scienz of Life, Afu-Ra, Bigg Jus and MF DOOM, and nobody dissed me, including him. I also did great when I rocked Project Blowed, don't forget. But you can keep hating. I'll just keep creating.

Time to listen to the 'Jupiter' album. Shit's pretty fucking dope. Peace.

Mindbender loves you all

House of Games · Post by **House of Games** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:16 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote: a new chapter ends.

Conspiracy · Post by **Conspiracy** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:50 pm

mac lethal, I create music in a way that can be described as, overcreativity and excessive artistry.

i am not a minimalist, a person who takes shortcuts or rips off the fans.

i like to make my hiphop, that has the artist name 'Conspiracy', complex, harmoniously melodic (even if the beats are slow and long), and I will give away the secret to my failure/success-....I try to use the hidden obvious, or the generalized ideas of any cliche lyric and CHEEZE IT ALL UP

mac lethal, I am also DJ, and I beatmix and scratch, so I have mabye a more developed sence of timing than mindbender...but he got DJ skills too

AND my source of writing fuel, is marijuana and hard drugs, so as long as there is pens , paper, weed, cigarettes, instrumentals and junk food (for munchies).....I WILL BE CONTINUOUSLY CONSTRUCTING CRAFT COMPOSITIONS.

i made up a new playname. it's "Literature". conspiracy aka literature

the name of something secret yet to be released is this:
"Afrodeluxioustyle Zenith"

and on that note, i think of punchlines for a mac lethal collaboration in the ever future! the pre-programmable rhyme machine, called THE BRAIN.

el-P, slug, mac lethal, mindbender, conspiracy, cadence weapon, abstract rude...AND?

ROSARIO · Post by **ROSARIO** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:36 am

bender, the track needs to be more structured and shortened. But its better than what you've posted in the past. keep having fun with it.

perabigail · Post by **perabigail** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:45 am

Mindbender Futurama wrote:<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/BV2DONJA-CI&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/BV2DONJA-CI&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

a new chapter begins.

Crooked S · Post by **Crooked S** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:10 am

mike eagle wrote:what did that guy in the audience scream at :24

did he say "you're thirty-two years old" ?

I like the hook...the verses may be too long. Was that whole song two verses?

I could swear it sounded more like he said "you're forty-two years old"

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:21 am

perabigail wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/BV2DONJA-CI&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/BV2DONJA-CI&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

a new chapter begins.

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:46 am

Moolah wrote:
perabigail wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/BV2DONJA-CI&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/BV2DONJA-CI&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

a new chapter begins.

IsleOfWhites · Post by **IsleOfWhites** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:16 am

Mindbender Futurama wrote:but when I got into 'PIMP', it was showtime ambrosia. I had a couple sexy girls dancing all up and down on me as I walked around the room with the cordless, I was rhyming into pussies, spanking asses, and cut out a line to place a juicy kiss on this cute little thing I wound up dirty dancing with later on in the night. I'm finally confident enough to take what I want from this shit, and I did it last night. Some people taped the debauchery on their camera phones, I'll share links if I get any.

perabigail · Post by **perabigail** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:28 am

IsleOfWhites wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:but when I got into 'PIMP', it was showtime ambrosia. I had a couple sexy girls dancing all up and down on me as I walked around the room with the cordless, I was rhyming into pussies, spanking asses, and cut out a line to place a juicy kiss on this cute little thing I wound up dirty dancing with later on in the night. I'm finally confident enough to take what I want from this shit, and I did it last night. Some people taped the debauchery on their camera phones, I'll share links if I get any.

IsleOfWhites · Post by **IsleOfWhites** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:33 am

perabigail wrote:
IsleOfWhites wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:but when I got into 'PIMP', it was showtime ambrosia. I had a couple sexy girls dancing all up and down on me as I walked around the room with the cordless, I was rhyming into pussies, spanking asses, and cut out a line to place a juicy kiss on this cute little thing I wound up dirty dancing with later on in the night. I'm finally confident enough to take what I want from this shit, and I did it last night. Some people taped the debauchery on their camera phones, I'll share links if I get any.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:32 am

Crooked S wrote:
mike eagle wrote:what did that guy in the audience scream at :24

did he say "you're thirty-two years old" ?

I like the hook...the verses may be too long. Was that whole song two verses?
I could swear it sounded more like he said "you're forty-two years old"

I just listened to it again and I admit I heard him say that too, this time.

But I know the guy who said it. I just told him I was 32. He was also pretty drunk. Thus... 42.

Good times.

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:03 am

when you find a link of you rapping into pussies and interacting with hot women, make sure to include the torrent links for the felt 3 leak as well in the post.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:55 pm

P.I.M.P
its positive it stands for something

Please Institutionalize Mindbender Promptly

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:26 pm

ALASKA wrote:P.I.M.P
its positive it stands for something

Please Institutionalize Mindbender Promptly

Dude.......

I'm LOLing, but it feels wrong.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:37 pm

Employee wrote:
ALASKA wrote:P.I.M.P
its positive it stands for something

Please Institutionalize Mindbender Promptly
Dude.......

I'm LOLing, but it feels wrong.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:37 pm

ALASKA wrote:P.I.M.P
its positive it stands for something

Please Institutionalize Mindbender Promptly

peace to Alaska for comin thru with the ha ha

he invented the remix

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:40 pm

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:43 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
ALASKA wrote:P.I.M.P
its positive it stands for something

Please Institutionalize Mindbender Promptly
peace to Alaska for comin thru with the ha ha

he invented the remix

Why are you being so impish?

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:45 pm

Employee wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
ALASKA wrote:P.I.M.P
its positive it stands for something

Please Institutionalize Mindbender Promptly
peace to Alaska for comin thru with the ha ha

he invented the remix
Why are you being so impish?

wat

i just don't have the energy to contribute to this place like i used to, if that's what you mean.

a thug changes, and love changes.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:49 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
a thug changes, and love changes.

OMG. Did you really type that?

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:50 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote: i just don't have the energy to contribute to this place like i used to, if that's what you mean.

Also, why would you stage your world premier here if you feel that way?

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:23 pm

Employee wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote: i just don't have the energy to contribute to this place like i used to, if that's what you mean.
Also, why would you stage your world premier here if you feel that way?

many lolz

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