BadLT wrote:Yeah I like 100s a lot too. But still, he kinda popped up suddenly and ended up on some year-end lists.
Other plausible contenders: Deniro Farrar? Aaron Cohen? Haleek Maul? Antwon?
Nah, not Deniro. He gotta boost working with the homies BSBD but he seems like he puts in work. And it couldn't be Antwon. If anything, Antwon buzz should be bigger. Yeah, what's up with 100s? Haven't heard shit from him so I doubt if its him, too.
Who are the other two?
Edit: Glad we broke it down to Kitty Pride being it. Let's hope our number 9 spot as being the most influential board gets people talking. Good work, folks.
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This is a very interesting post on the comment section of the Martorialist blog:
Anonymous said...
people in that group:
walkmaster flex
kitty pryde (i think the person pellion's talking about. CH is right that she did rap before it's existence, but only some only for fun/notes tumblr type shit and obv wouldn't have gotten any type of success if it wasn't for people telling her what to do and walker becoming her manager)
young lean (another contender, but he's not touring)
yams
suicideyear (producer)
antwon
ryan hemsworth
various main attrakionz producers
a few other rappers i can't remember off the top of my head
noisey bloggers
it's ran by a wannabe yams guy who gained a lotta tumblr followers from making countless lil b gifs in 2010/11 named wavriel. he runs a tumblr called "smackdahoe"
this FB group is called The Wavery and it started off as an innocuous thing made to share and discuss music but then obtained a sort of an agenda when the owner decided he wanted to be friends with rappers and manage them, and would kick everyone out wasn't a musician or blogger (or at least anyone who bad talked his shitty cloud rap producer friends). i wouldn't call it an illuminati type-deal (i doubt most of them are aware of what they are actually apart of) but the group does have a bit of pull on what gets popular on tumblr and probably lesser blog rap sites like noisey. a good example of how it works is when yung gleesh was pushed heavily on tumblr and tweeted about as some lil b influenced street rap thing until it caught the attention of one of the bigger sites that covers rap (david drake on Fader iirc).
oh and that steadybloggin guy has nothing to do with that group lol
Yeah, that is interesting. Just goes to show, the best place for hip hop music recommendations is places like this. Easy to forget that places like Noisey have a huge agenda. Moreso than a lot of 'blogs by the sound of things.
A little off topic, but someone break down Noisey to me though while we're on the topic of this. I thought Noisey was a video company. What else is with up them?
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ardamus wrote:A little off topic, but someone break down Noisey to me though while we're on the topic of this. I thought Noisey was a video company. What else is with up them?
They're owned by Vice Magazine, and share a lot of writers.
VICE started Noisey back in 2011, criss-crossing the globe documenting the year in music from heavy-hitters to tiny garage bands who usually play for their girlfriends and moms. Since then, it has grown into one of the most unique and successful video-driven music sites on the planet. In 2012, Noisey teamed with YouTube as a premium content provider, and built out a series of shows that take a completely fresh take on the world of music.
As an editorial resource, Noisey.com reaches millions of people a month, and has become a go-to source for weird music news, artist-sourced content, and VICE's signature offbeat coverage. Noisey throws parties and shows worldwide, hosts innovative online listening parties for new records, and produces videos for the best artists in the world, like MIA, Die Antwoord, A$AP Rocky, and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Noisey is more than just a music site—music is the lens with which we explore youth culture all over the world.
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Pushing artist that they've signed and are promoting. They put on a ton of shows in London, so they're obviously going to have a bias towards their own artists. Hence endless articles about the same people - Danny Brown, Action Bronson etc.
I'm not saying its in any way shady, just that you'll get a way broader/more balanced view here.
I play ball with this writer/hipster guy and he was the first person off the internet I met who was like "Kitty Pryde is actually really good if you take into consideration blah blah blah..." now I'm wondering if he's part of this group or just a total fucking dipshit who was riding the wave. Regardless, this is a VERY satisfying to find out.
vice does have their fingers in many pies but i'm pretty sure the only rapper actually signed to vice records is action bronson
this isn't some nefarious conspiracy, this whole scene is just a self perpetuating mutually beneficial echo chamber - blogs hype artists, artist hype blogs/give them exclusives/play blog-sponsored shows, the share the same fanbase who eat it all up, rinse, repeat. it's not just noisey, it's pretty much all the blogs who generate some kind of revenue related to the music they cover. pretty much teh same thing more or less the same thing happens at the tumblr/smaller blog level, but without any actual money involved. can't really front like steadyb hasn't benefited a bit from this a little bit either, as far as building an audience.
therein is the genius of Yams' strategy, he figured out how to work all this shit to actually create a real tangible career for Rocky
My point was that it's harder for them to be impartial, and hard (for me, personally) to take them seriously when they push dross like Saaab Stories, or Das Racist when they put on their first show in the UK. I'd rather listen to the good folks here is all I'm saying.
oh any idea of 'impartial' in all this have gone out the window ages ago. then again, most of these places ever claimed to be paragons of journalistic integrity either. bloggin and journalism are very different things, the conflation of the two made things muddy
if you want really impartial bloggin on this kind of rap, only read tumblrs run by japanese kids who somehow manage to track down and indiscriminately post every shred of music from every up and coming internet rapper in existence
Blockhead wrote:I play ball with this writer/hipster guy and he was the first person off the internet I met who was like "Kitty Pryde is actually really good if you take into consideration blah blah blah..." now I'm wondering if he's part of this group or just a total fucking dipshit who was riding the wave. Regardless, this is a VERY satisfying to find out.
Out of curiosity, what did he ask you to take into consideration?
drizzle wrote:vice does have their fingers in many pies but i'm pretty sure the only rapper actually signed to vice records is action bronson
this isn't some nefarious conspiracy, this whole scene is just a self perpetuating mutually beneficial echo chamber - blogs hype artists, artist hype blogs/give them exclusives/play blog-sponsored shows, the share the same fanbase who eat it all up, rinse, repeat. it's not just noisey, it's pretty much all the blogs who generate some kind of revenue related to the music they cover. pretty much teh same thing more or less the same thing happens at the tumblr/smaller blog level, but without any actual money involved. can't really front like steadyb hasn't benefited a bit from this a little bit either, as far as building an audience.
therein is the genius of Yams' strategy, he figured out how to work all this shit to actually create a real tangible career for Rocky
nah, i'm just saying i didn't realize Vice was expanding on their topics about shit so much. it just looked like when you scrolled thru the website, they're covering shit like professional fights in one section only and got some deal with HBO going on. then there's Noisey which is a joint venture with YouTube. just never knew they were around like that.
i was joking about the tumblruminati shit. thing is you can't front about there being a certain kind of social construct going on. and i agree that Yams was smart when it came to getting A$AP Rocky a career.
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i really thought it was going to be somebody white. and was leaning towards it being a girl.
Kitty Pryde being a complete joke that is not a real rapper, but has been the beneficiary of an elite network of privileged people promoting her "music" as worthy of a career is really not surprising in the least. but thanks for sussing it out, drizzdawg and co.
I only heard her first song 'Okay Cupid', and was like "this is not real rap music, this is a parody of a joke of a farce" and never heard her again
that was like 2 years ago. she's still floating with a career still? she's not on the Lady Sovereign/Iggy Azalea/Kreayshawn/V-Nasty white girl gimmick rap bandwagon that lasts for a few random months then crashes and burns? must be nice to be a white girl exploiting black culture AND internet hyper-connectivity at the same time
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Blockhead wrote:I play ball with this writer/hipster guy and he was the first person off the internet I met who was like "Kitty Pryde is actually really good if you take into consideration blah blah blah..." now I'm wondering if he's part of this group or just a total fucking dipshit who was riding the wave. Regardless, this is a VERY satisfying to find out.
Out of curiosity, what did he ask you to take into consideration?
Oh, I don't even remember. It was him basically just trying to explain why Kitty Pryde isn't really a joke and that cause she has good beats and doesn't care about rapping but raps, I should be jerking off to her catalogue. The dude is a good guy and knows a lot about music but he's generally the first guy to jump on any trend that Vice decides to make a "thing". Pretty sure he listens to yung lean when he's alone.
Oh, he's not famous or known like that. He's just some scenester dude who I play ball with. I bought him up as an example of the people who are actually falling for all this bullshit.
drizzle wrote:this isn't some nefarious conspiracy, this whole scene is just a self perpetuating mutually beneficial echo chamber - blogs hype artists, artist hype blogs/give them exclusives/play blog-sponsored shows, the share the same fanbase who eat it all up, rinse, repeat.
that plus ppl just wanting to just be included & make friends b/c we're all secretly lonely & insecure
Blockhead wrote:I play ball with this writer/hipster guy and he was the first person off the internet I met who was like "Kitty Pryde is actually really good if you take into consideration blah blah blah..." now I'm wondering if he's part of this group or just a total fucking dipshit who was riding the wave. Regardless, this is a VERY satisfying to find out.
Out of curiosity, what did he ask you to take into consideration?
lol yea that's some excellent investigative muckracking on the part of Anonymous. blew my facade wide open, i been stuntin hard ever since my first post in this thread... which is literally 'i'm not in that group'