I'm convinced rappers don't really follow rap

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:05 pm

Premier + Jay Electronica.

End of story, son.

Fuck Big Shug, lol. You fucking kidding me?

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:08 pm

The Rapping Coffin wrote:
drizzle wrote:
drizzle wrote:
Thun wrote: Also, is GURU's death going to become as annoying as Dilla's? I really hope not.
it already is (i say this with no specific offense meant to anybody who takes these things to heart), although you can argue that the hysteria is somewhat more justified in this case
http://www.unkut.com/2010/04/when-are-d ... loitation/

1. Every two-bit blog and news site posts an גR.I.P.ג piece with the basic facts, and maybe a song or a video.
wow...sites that cover rap have the audacity to post the news that a major artist has died. We're off to a shitty start with this article.

2. A couple of DJגs who knew and respected the artist do a quality tribute mix or radio special, followed by dozens of dudes who hadnגt played anything by the artist in years but are suddenly claiming to be גclose personal friendsג.
uh...rap stations play songs from 94 during their throwback hour every day. "Classic Rap" stations on XM/Sirius play Guru shit every day. Pop Stations aren't playing early 90s hits either.

4. Bootleg blogs post every single album and guest appearance by the artist and claim itגs a גdedicationג.
There is a whole generation of rap fans that haven't heard Guru's music, and they don't buy CDs anyway. The exposure of his death gives these kids (or non-rap fans who read the NY Times obit) the chance to enjoy his music. Why is this bad?

5. Bloggers and mixtape DJגs frantically raid the vaults in an attempt to find lost demos and outtakes that they can claim as exclusives.
uh isn't this point of blogs like TROY. Give the hardcore fans a chance to enjoy stuff they may not have heard?

6. Video interviews claiming to be the גlast everג flood the blogs, followed by countless videos of rappers telling stories about hanging out the recently departed.
A) Guru has been out of the public consciousness for 10 years. I'm sure people are curious to see what he looked like/had been doing,

B) Sharing stories is something everybody does when somebody dies. It's bad that people like Fat Joe are sharing stories about how Guru changed rap? We don't like perspective now?

7. No name rappers start doing embarrassingly bad freestyles over the dead artists beats.
If a tree falls...

8. Corny גR.I.Pג t-shirts appear on Ebay.
All rap shirts are corny. Why start here?

FIRST RULE ABOUT GURU'S DEATH:

DO NOT TALK ABOUT GURU'S DEATH

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:23 am

Peep what Ghost had to say. "Mass Appeal all of that, this was before I was making records..." Oh really? Enter The 36 dropped a year 1/2 before Hard To Earn.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 9454800001

Mindbender Futurama · Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:52 pm

Reggie wrote:Artists don't need to necessarily be art nerds, but--as I've said before on this very forum--you'd like to think that when someone gets serious about practicing a craft, they examine their forebears closely, even if only to avoid doing the same thing they did. So while I don't expect a current rapper to know Godfather Don necessarily, they should know the bigger names. Many young rappers today seem to get off on professing a complete lack of knowledge about artists that came before them. Whether they are being facetious or serious, I don't know, but pimping your own ignorance for cred is fucking wack.

this is why I will never give a drop of respect to Plies.

in his FIRST article ever in XXL, just one of those one-page up and comer sections for new MCs, he was in there a few years ago, and he said something I'll never forget (to be disgusted by):

"Yo, I'm not one of those four-elements/give respect to Afrika Bambaataa guys. I don't care about none of that shit. I'm just about my money."

x

sure that's dope you gave $4000 for an underage girl to leave your show... but you're a fucking idiot if you don't give even a single moment of time to respect or learn about the entire history of the artform that is feeding you and your greedy capitalism consumption.

that's like being a NBA basketball player that's like "fuck the game, I play for money. And who cares who Michael Jordan or Dr. J is? fuck them all"

your career deserves to die.

there's no "oh you have to be able to recite 'Illmatic' front to back while standing on your head and touching your nose with your left hand" test for true b-boy cred-izm

... you just have to not be an ignorant fuck.

which is asking for too much from some people in hip hop.

rap is outta control

supnick · Post by **supnick** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:36 pm

Philaflava wrote:Peep what Ghost had to say. "Mass Appeal all of that, this was before I was making records..." Oh really? Enter The 36 dropped a year 1/2 before Hard To Earn.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 9454800001

at least he tried

game bullshitted his answer at full force

Dat_Triflin_Ass_Dude · Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:01 pm

Thun wrote:Were many people really up on Dilla's complete discography though? I remember being surprised when I actually saw the whole discography listed after he died.

Also, is GURU's death going to become as annoying as Dilla's? I really hope not.

true that on dilla's discog. hope not on guru's death

starks · Post by **starks** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:33 am

supnick wrote:
at least he tried

game bullshitted his answer at full force

yeah that was terrible

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:37 am

I saw Ice-T give a talk once where he he mixed up the order of certain events in his own career. Fucking Ice-T just doesn't listen to enough Ice-T.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:05 am

Mindbender Futurama wrote:"Yo, I'm not one of those four-elements/give respect to Afrika Bambaataa guys. I don't care about none of that shit. I'm just about my money."

That's the ill shit. And who gives a fuck about Plies?

thryle · Post by **thryle** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:53 am

Philaflava wrote:Peep what Ghost had to say. "Mass Appeal all of that, this was before I was making records..." Oh really? Enter The 36 dropped a year 1/2 before Hard To Earn.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 9454800001

Maybe he thought about the solo's.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:47 am

Employee wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:"Yo, I'm not one of those four-elements/give respect to Afrika Bambaataa guys. I don't care about none of that shit. I'm just about my money."
That's the ill shit. And who gives a fuck about Plies?

There are posters here who would sell their sisters into white slavery just to be teabagged by him.

Tired & Broke · Post by **Tired & Broke** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:47 am

thryle wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Peep what Ghost had to say. "Mass Appeal all of that, this was before I was making records..." Oh really? Enter The 36 dropped a year 1/2 before Hard To Earn.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 9454800001
Maybe he thought about the solo's.

same thing I was thinking

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:03 pm

Thun wrote:
Employee wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:"Yo, I'm not one of those four-elements/give respect to Afrika Bambaataa guys. I don't care about none of that shit. I'm just about my money."
That's the ill shit. And who gives a fuck about Plies?
There are posters here who would sell their sisters into white slavery just to be teabagged by him.

Blastmaster, CFA, Stoop Kid - Who else is missing from the list?

The Frankest · Post by **The Frankest** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:27 pm

Tired & Broke wrote:
thryle wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Peep what Ghost had to say. "Mass Appeal all of that, this was before I was making records..." Oh really? Enter The 36 dropped a year 1/2 before Hard To Earn.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 9454800001
Maybe he thought about the solo's.
same thing I was thinking

Yeah, come on Jason, LOL.

"I don't even know what to say... Guru... Mass Appeal..."

It's a sudden question and he's just speaking from the heart. Mass Appeal came to mind while he was formulating, but the gist of it was how Gangstarr was around before Wu-Tang and that they were essential.

GrimeyHippy · Post by **GrimeyHippy** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:35 pm

Ghost forgot he's almost a senior citizen

Lurk Uno · Post by **Lurk Uno** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:24 pm

Blockhead wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
I think rappers from his era could tell you all about hip hop in the 80's but once they started releasing music, i'd imagine it gets a little fuzzy. Every rapper I've met who's closer to 40 than 30 is kinda like that. But it is ill to see their eyes light up when discussing 80's rap. so, that's kinda nice.

soo true...

"he was one of them dudes that officialized hip hop..." lol

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