RZA Confirms Liquid Swords 2

Buddahbastid · Post by **Buddahbastid** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:01 am

Verge wrote:I would never ever minimalize the greatness of Rza and what he's accomplished and produced, but nowadays, as far as making sounding shit, I'd rather True Master get on the boards.
Not a questionable beat in his catalog. All raw Wu shit....that may get boring at times, but still..

RZA's better when he has a focused product though...producing for himself or the Clan, he has a tendency to play around and get weird; experiment too much. When he was doing members full solos, he always seemed to shine brighter.

Also, even though some tracks were added/subtracted, Cuban Linx 2 started off as a RZA produced/overseen project and that turned out mad nice...my main question mark is GZA needing an energy transplant

truthaddict · Post by **truthaddict** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:37 am

Haven't all these "whole album produced by RZA" plans fallen apart? I think Method Man's last one was supposedly going to be all RZA, then he ended up only producing like 4 songs. Then Cuban Linx II was supposed to be all or mostly RZA, and that didn't happen. Now Inspectah Deck and U-God are talking about RZA doing their whole album.

I believe it when I see it. Hope it happens though.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:51 am

Buddahbastid · Post by **Buddahbastid** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:12 am

truthaddict wrote:Haven't all these "whole album produced by RZA" plans fallen apart? I think Method Man's last one was supposedly going to be all RZA, then he ended up only producing like 4 songs. Then Cuban Linx II was supposed to be all or mostly RZA, and that didn't happen. Now Inspectah Deck and U-God are talking about RZA doing their whole album.

Naw, 4:21 was always supposed to be the way it was...the RZA tracks were spawned from roughly the same sessions that CL2 started out of

CL2 was mostly RZA, but the version that RZA was in charge of/overseeing still had plenty non-RZA tracks like House of Flying Daggers, We Will Rob You, couple of the Scram Jones tracks, started working with Dre, etc... and, over time, Rae changed his mind on cuts like State of Grace, Thug World/Unpredictable, etc... think of early CL2 more like a Supreme Clientele situation

For Deck & U, those just came up, RZA's doing half of Deck's (supposedly, Deck also was complaining when he gets RZA beats he doesn't get RZA's best during Manifesto press) and U just reached out to RZA this year

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:26 am

GZA talking in his sleep on top of a kick and a snare >>> '94 revisionist hippie rap

Renessis · Post by **Renessis** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:05 am

His lack of energy[GZA], in recordings, gets mentioned a lot, but I have heard it's a contrast versus his live set. My homie saw him a few months back, said he was LIVE.
Maybe he needs to smoke less in the studio. I dunno.

clark bent · Post by **clark bent** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:20 am

i dont think you can put into words how underwhelming this news is

SYM · Post by **SYM** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:23 am

Renessis wrote:His lack of energy[GZA], in recordings, gets mentioned a lot, but I have heard it's a contrast versus his live set. My homie saw him a few months back, said he was LIVE.
Maybe he needs to smoke less in the studio. I dunno.

cosigned on his live show only cause I saw him actually around the time he was promoting for Legend during the cmj season. got a drop from him for the station i was djing for, he was amped as hell that night.

but since then i've read less than stellar accounts from boarders here about his live performances. he was on tap to perform liquid swords for the don't look back series and i remember reading a whole lot of negative recaps (that is if he even did do the whole album front to back at all).

Moolah wrote:Worst: GZA. Wu tangs greatest hits, as performed by only GZA, with him saying about every 10th word, and pointing the mic at the crowd for the rest.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:00 am

i've seen gza live several times and he was always underwhelming. mostly he just stands in one place and mumbles at his shoes

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:21 am

Yeah. Dude even left the stage everytime he finished his verse in the "wu-tang concert" I was at. Probably to take a nap or something.

HomeSkillet · Post by **HomeSkillet** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:33 am

I will sit back and wait on this... not gettin too excited

Buddahbastid · Post by **Buddahbastid** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:14 pm

GZA's live shows vary wildly depending on how drunk he is.

He's often very drunk.

truthaddict · Post by **truthaddict** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:57 pm

Buddahbastid wrote:GZA's live shows very wildly depending on how drunk he is.

He's often very drunk.

I can co-sign this.

I have seen good and bad GZA shows. The alcohol doesn't help him any.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:42 am

http://www.unkut.com/2010/04/internets- ... hat-loses/

interviewer wrote:Iגve noticed that youגre a big Twittererג¦

RZA wrote: Me? I Twitter a lot? No, itגs not me. [Laughing] Hey, donגt believe everything you Twit! Itגs not my page. But Iגm an artist ג so itגs probably someone running that shit. Donגt believe everything you Twit, yo!

So this may be some bs, not that it would really happen anyways.

Buddahbastid · Post by **Buddahbastid** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:47 am

Verge wrote:http://www.unkut.com/2010/04/internets- ... hat-loses/
interviewer wrote:Iגve noticed that youגre a big Twittererג¦

RZA wrote: Me? I Twitter a lot? No, itגs not me. [Laughing] Hey, donגt believe everything you Twit! Itגs not my page. But Iגm an artist ג so itגs probably someone running that shit. Donגt believe everything you Twit, yo!
So this may be some bs, not that it would really happen anyways.

http://live.rzawu.com/rzawu-for-real.mp3

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:03 am

Buddahbastid wrote:
Verge wrote:http://www.unkut.com/2010/04/internets- ... hat-loses/
interviewer wrote:Iגve noticed that youגre a big Twittererג¦

RZA wrote: Me? I Twitter a lot? No, itגs not me. [Laughing] Hey, donגt believe everything you Twit! Itגs not my page. But Iגm an artist ג so itגs probably someone running that shit. Donגt believe everything you Twit, yo!
So this may be some bs, not that it would really happen anyways.
http://live.rzawu.com/rzawu-for-real.mp3

I cant get audio at work, what is that? RZA confirming this album and making me look foolish?

All good, I'll wait til lunch time at work.