why i don't like most white rappers

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:22 pm

Philaflava wrote:I can list 30 white rappers I like

do it

senorhaha · Post by **senorhaha** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:22 pm

Ho1ogramz wrote:
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Ill Cracka.

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Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:23 pm

I think I mixed him up with E. Bros

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:24 pm

Reason wrote:
Philaflava wrote:I can list 30 white rappers I like
do it

Yeah I thought that was a strange claim as well.

sean · Post by **sean** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:29 pm

brother ali
aesoprock
sage francis
eyedea
eminem
evidence
el p
cage
alaska
eligh
grouch
new
mac lethal
sims
yak balls
pete nice
adrock
dose one
alias

if i can't make it to 30, no way gloss can.

edit...i'm sure i'm missing a few.
got tired of thinking about it.

Quotashun · Post by **Quotashun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:32 pm

Yeah, he's horrible like pretty much all white and/or Canadian rappers. Doesn't get any more basic and backpacker than this guy.

R.A. should be on anyone's 'tolerable white rappers' list though.

PopeyeJones · Post by **PopeyeJones** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:33 pm

Thun wrote: Also whites almost never have bassy, cool voices and even when they do they still manage to fag it up 90% of the time. It doesn't matter how many blac rappers supposedly have the same flaws if virtually no whites can transcend them

This is about sounding "white", not about having a bassy voice or not. Q-Tip, Sadat X and the chipmunk collective in Souls of Mischief were never brushed aside because of the lack of bass in their voices. Nobody here is praying at the alter of Hustle Crowe because he has a bassy voice, either.

I (personally) agree that sounding "white" mostly comes off as really corny (regardless of if the person is actually white like Asher Roth or just sounds "white" like Pigeon John or K-OS), but the category and the explanation for it are entirely tautological. You, me and Jason all grew up listening to people who sound "black" -- it's not like any of us are reinventing the wheel of socially embedded taste because that's still the sound we prefer and find authentic in regards to our expectations. All I'm saying is that white rappers still have to balance not sounding too white without sounding as if they're trying too hard to not sound too white. Anybody who doesn't do this (or isn't capable of it) is disregarded from jump street. I'm not saying we should feel sorry for these people or even give a fuck about them (I personally don't), but it explains why a disproportionate number of white rappers suck when it comes to our expectations. I think access to equipment and the sheer numbers game (as mentioned above) explain part of it also.

Thun wrote: The playing field in rap is not racially even no matter how hard some people here desperately pray to their statue of Elvis that it is.

I don't think anyone is saying it is or need be.

In any case, yeah, this topic is pretty fucking boring at this point. We go down this road and next thing you know we'll be debating if Black Moon really invented the "backpack and hoodie" look like they claimed in their liner notes.

sean · Post by **sean** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:34 pm

oh yeah. awol one!!!

and luke fucking sick.

still not 30 though.

i'm sure there's more.

this game sucks.

somebody nsfw this thing.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:34 pm

sean wrote:brother ali
aesoprock
sage francis
eyedea
eminem
evidence
el p
cage
alaska
eligh
grouch
new
mac lethal
sims
yak balls
pete nice
adrock
dose one
alias

if i can't make it to 30, no way gloss can.

edit...i'm sure i'm missing a few.
got tired of thinking about it.

Sims from Doomtree?

sean · Post by **sean** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:37 pm

yeah. r.a. the rugged man.

you fuckers!!!

(please use the voice that kept making phone calls and saying random members of public enemy names during the intro to "fear of a black planet" when you read all of my posts from here on through the rest of my eternity with this board. k thx.)

terminator x!!!

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:39 pm

i ran into him and traded albums with Sims when he was touring with POS. his False Hopes album is damn good......

ADeeM?

senorhaha · Post by **senorhaha** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:44 pm

i can easily name 30 white mcs i like, 30 white mcs i can keep in rotation?, that might be a bit harder to pull off

sean · Post by **sean** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:49 pm

senorhaha wrote:i can easily name 30 white mcs i like, 30 white mcs i can keep in rotation?, that might be a bit harder to pull off

yep.
shit, i don't even think i keep that many any-color emcee's in rotation.

shit man. i don't think i even keep 30 albums of any music in rotation anymore.

i peep new stuff once. if i like, i keep it somewhere in a pile.
there probably isn't a single rapper post 94 that i keep in rotation.
fuck it man.
there probably isn't an album of any genre post 94 that i keep in rotation.

once in a while, i might dig through a pile, find something that i remember liking, and put it in the car for a week.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:57 pm

Thun wrote:
Reason wrote:
Philaflava wrote:I can list 30 white rappers I like
do it
Yeah I thought that was a strange claim as well.

Clearly an exaggeration but I'll try. Here we go off the top.

(no order)

1 MCA
2 King Ad Rock
3 Mike D
4 Pete Nice
5 MC Serch
6 Eminem
7 Ill Bill
8 Gortex
9 El-P
10 Alaska
11 Aesop Rock
12 :sluggo:

13 Edan
14 Paul Wall
15 Brother Ali
16 RA The Rugged Man
17 Paul Barman
18 Apathy
19 Cage
20 The Grouch
21 Everlast
22 Evidence
23 Bubba Sparxx
24 Blood of Abraham (technically 2)
25 Scram Jones
26 Eligh
27 Necro
28 Vinnie Paz (early JMT)
29 intuition
30 Can-U/Ayentee

Fuck Dru Ha

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:00 pm

31 MAX "MUTHAFUCKIN" KELLERMAN

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:11 pm

Gloss what if you were forced by terrorists to listen to nothing but those 30 rappers for a whole year?

mike eagle · Post by **mike eagle** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:19 pm

Ive seen the Grouch in person like ten times and its never even remotely occured to me to that he even might be white....

I thought he was, like mixed or some such classification...does that really count?

This is probably one of those things everybody knows except me

Murph · Post by **Murph** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:20 pm

I like Classified

However, I realize that not only am I Canadian, but Classified is actually from my hometown. Therefore my input is completely disregarded.

Either way, I think there are some good white rappers out there. Not very many, and I'm not sure why that is, but there are some worth mentioning. I imagine the fact that "most" white people don't grow up in surroundings promoting hip-hop influencing music. I mean, growing up all my parents/brother listened to was older rock music or classical. I don't think my parents making me take piano lessons really made me want to rap. I didn't really discover hiphop, funk, jazz, etc. until later on in my 'teens. I would imagine black (African American?) children generally grow up in households with more diverse musical tastes.

Obviously I'm not saying that everyone is like this, but I'm sure that I'm not alone. Maybe this has something to do with it... but maybe not.

I don't want to sound offensive or stereotyping here, just my two cents.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:21 pm

Thun wrote:Gloss what if you were forced by terrorists to listen to nothing but those 30 rappers for a whole year?

I don't know about Gloss, but I'd rather cut my ears out with ulu knives and donate them to Marley Matlin.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:21 pm

Thun wrote:Gloss what if you were forced by terrorists to listen to nothing but those 30 rappers for a whole year?

I'd rather be Bernie Madoff.

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:22 pm

senorhaha wrote:it all boils down to voice and a bit of style for me

most whiteboys have voices that i dont want to hear
and just lack style

now ima try to think of a list of whiteboys whos voice i think stands out

ec illa,awol,mestizo,aesop,man this is kinda hard haha ok im done thinking fuck this

Qwel, don't forget Qwel.

senorhaha · Post by **senorhaha** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:22 pm

sean wrote:
senorhaha wrote:i can easily name 30 white mcs i like, 30 white mcs i can keep in rotation?, that might be a bit harder to pull off

shit man. i don't think i even keep 30 albums of any music in rotation anymore.

i peep new stuff once. if i like, i keep it somewhere in a pile.
there probably isn't a single rapper post 94 that i keep in rotation.
fuck it man.

once in a while, i might dig through a pile, find something that i remember liking, and put it in the car for a week.

pretty much

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:23 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Thun wrote:Gloss what if you were forced by terrorists to listen to nothing but those 30 rappers for a whole year?
I don't know about Gloss, but I'd rather cut my ears out with ulu knives and donate them to Marley Matlin.

BUT IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT! THEY DIDN'T GROW UP IN NURTURING HIP HOP ENVIRONMENTS? ARE YOU NOT SYMPATHETIC TO THE EURO-AMERICAN PLIGHT??

THIS IS THE NATURE OF THE FRET

senorhaha · Post by **senorhaha** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:24 pm

Jaz wrote:
senorhaha wrote:it all boils down to voice and a bit of style for me

most whiteboys have voices that i dont want to hear
and just lack style

now ima try to think of a list of whiteboys whos voice i think stands out

ec illa,awol,mestizo,aesop,man this is kinda hard haha ok im done thinking fuck this
Qwel, don't forget Qwel.

qwel is the hommie and all, but his voice used to kill me

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:26 pm

senorhaha wrote:
Jaz wrote:
senorhaha wrote:it all boils down to voice and a bit of style for me

most whiteboys have voices that i dont want to hear
and just lack style

now ima try to think of a list of whiteboys whos voice i think stands out

ec illa,awol,mestizo,aesop,man this is kinda hard haha ok im done thinking fuck this
Qwel, don't forget Qwel.
qwel is the hommie and all, but his voice used to kill me

Dude, he had to cultivate the voice in an unloving, unsupportive suburban household where Led Zeppelin records were in abundance but nary a James brown or Run DMC disc was to be found. Have you no heart?

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:30 pm

Reasons I don't like most (all) white rapper:

1) Voice
2) their race

hellriser · Post by **hellriser** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:37 pm

sean wrote:brother ali
aesoprock
sage francis
eyedea
eminem
evidence
el p
cage
alaska
eligh
grouch
new
mac lethal
sims
yak balls
pete nice
adrock
dose one
alias

if i can't make it to 30, no way gloss can.

edit...i'm sure i'm missing a few.
got tired of thinking about it.

slug why brother ali on this list...? he is albino.... but he is black... in theory

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:40 pm

Thun wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Thun wrote:Gloss what if you were forced by terrorists to listen to nothing but those 30 rappers for a whole year?
I don't know about Gloss, but I'd rather cut my ears out with ulu knives and donate them to Marley Matlin.
BUT IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT! THEY DIDN'T GROW UP IN NURTURING HIP HOP ENVIRONMENTS? ARE YOU NOT SYMPATHETIC TO THE EURO-AMERICAN PLIGHT??

THIS IS THE NATURE OF THE FRET

Did you not hear my screeches on the Conspiracy interview? I empathize. Doesn't make the music anymore listenable.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:44 pm

hellriser wrote:
sean wrote:brother ali
aesoprock
sage francis
eyedea
eminem
evidence
el p
cage
alaska
eligh
grouch
new
mac lethal
sims
yak balls
pete nice
adrock
dose one
alias

if i can't make it to 30, no way gloss can.

edit...i'm sure i'm missing a few.
got tired of thinking about it.
slug why brother ali on this list...? he is albino.... but he is black... in theory

I love that this theory is still widely believed within the general population. Prepare to have your dreams shattered my friend. The "in the name of black power" line was ironic.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:47 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
hellriser wrote:
sean wrote:brother ali
aesoprock
sage francis
eyedea
eminem
evidence
el p
cage
alaska
eligh
grouch
new
mac lethal
sims
yak balls
pete nice
adrock
dose one
alias

if i can't make it to 30, no way gloss can.

edit...i'm sure i'm missing a few.
got tired of thinking about it.
slug why brother ali on this list...? he is albino.... but he is black... in theory
I love that this theory is still widely believed within the general population. Prepare to have your dreams shattered my friend.